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Sinologist and historian, writing at Bloody Shovel. Discoverer of IQ Shredders and Bioleninism.

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    1. Spandrell‏ @thespandrell Aug 11

      Spandrell Retweeted Bill Bishop

      China seems to think it can keep growing by going colonial, replacing ties with the west with Africa and "BRICS". I guess they do really believe the Leninist idea about the west becoming rich through colonial exploitation.https://twitter.com/niubi/status/1027683386268286980 …

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      Bill BishopVerified account @niubi
      From what I have picked up so far a key theme of whatever is going in beidaihe is whether to offer more compromises to trump or, as some are arguing, there is no point in compromise with trump as he and his team have as their goal the thwarting of china’s rise 1/
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    2. Spandrell‏ @thespandrell Aug 11

      Which is lunacy. Growth comes from trading with rich nations. Poor nations are poor and don't have spending ability. Which is why western powers ended up moving troops to enforce their claims. China can't do that and will get fleeced. Ah, Marxists.

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    3. scientism‏ @mr_scientism Aug 11
      Replying to @thespandrell

      The West isn't going to shut China out. There's too much money to be made. China's 'threat' to the West is a long-term issue, like 50 years long-term, whereas China's market remains the biggest opportunity in the world, by far, even with the constraints on foreign entry.

      4 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. scientism‏ @mr_scientism Aug 11
      Replying to @mr_scientism @thespandrell

      Imagine you're the guy who has to keep Americans interested in the 'China threat', which is decades from being able to actually directly threaten the US (rather than nebulous 'US interests') when everyone could be making billions of dollars if you were just removed from your job.

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    5. scientism‏ @mr_scientism Aug 11
      Replying to @mr_scientism @thespandrell

      "Come on guys, we have an important duty to defend Thailand and the Philippines from joint exploration contracts in the South China Sea, you're just going to have to stop selling Buicks to the 1 billion non-Americans we found who inexplicably want them."

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. Spandrell‏ @thespandrell Aug 11
      Replying to @mr_scientism

      Thailand has no claims in the SCS, and Chinese territorial claims are ludicrous. Come on.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. scientism‏ @mr_scientism Aug 11
      Replying to @thespandrell

      My point is the issue is esoteric and far away, Americans don't care about it. It's unlikely to lead to conflict because SE Asians aren't suicidal. It's hard to keep people worried about a 'threat' that has no material consequences for them.

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      Spandrell‏ @thespandrell Aug 11
      Replying to @mr_scientism

      Well yeah, but the military industrial complex is a mighty thing, and ludicrous territorial claims are not a good tactic to disable it.

      9:02 PM - 11 Aug 2018
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