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Wrote WorldView. Had crashes: QuincyKit. Wanted Beta Distribution: HockeyKit. Others wanted it: Co-Founded @HockeyApp. Wanted easier reports: HockeyApp for Mac

Joined May 2007
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    Andreas Linde ‏@therealkerni 17 Sep 2015

    Apple actively uses Bitcode submissions to “re-compile” the builds without providing symbols. Making crash report symbolication impossible.

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      1. Max Seelemann ‏@macguru17 17 Sep 2015

        @therealkerni so that’s the end?

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      2. Andreas Linde ‏@therealkerni 17 Sep 2015

        @macguru17 There are options: http://support.hockeyapp.net/kb/client-integration-ios-mac-os-x/how-to-solve-symbolication-problems#bitcode-not-supported- …

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      3. Max Seelemann ‏@macguru17 17 Sep 2015

        @therealkerni but bitcode will be required starting next spring or so?

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      4. Andreas Linde ‏@therealkerni 17 Sep 2015

        @macguru17 For iOS? Haven’t seen this, got a source?

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      5. Max Seelemann ‏@macguru17 17 Sep 2015

        @therealkerni thought I overheard that in one of the WWDC sessions.

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      6. Andreas Linde ‏@therealkerni 17 Sep 2015

        @macguru17 It is required for watchOS and tvOS where they also blocked low level APIs.

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      7. Max Seelemann ‏@macguru17 17 Sep 2015

        @therealkerni http://asciiwwdc.com/2015/sessions/102?q=bitcode …pic.twitter.com/0ERwcYCBCW

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      8. Andreas Linde ‏@therealkerni 17 Sep 2015

        @macguru17 So optional, yes. Turned on by default, yes. But not required.

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      1. Rafif Yalda ‏@rafifyalda 17 Sep 2015

        @therealkerni Hmm, where did you read/see/notice this?

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      2. Andreas Linde ‏@therealkerni 17 Sep 2015

        @rafifyalda I created a test app, with and without Bitcode, uploaded it (Testflight) and tested by crashing it :)

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      3. Rafif Yalda ‏@rafifyalda 17 Sep 2015

        @therealkerni That's kind of worrying. Is Bitcode enabled on new projects by default?

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      4. Andreas Linde ‏@therealkerni 17 Sep 2015

        @rafifyalda yes

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      1. Nick Arnott ‏@noir 17 Sep 2015

        @therealkerni No way to retrieve dSYMs from iTC or Xcode’s crash logs?

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      2. Andreas Linde ‏@therealkerni 17 Sep 2015

        @noir Currently there are none. I don’t see any, tried.

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      1. Nils Hayat ‏@nilsou 18 Sep 2015

        @therealkerni @kyleve I don't think this is true. You should be able to download symbol files from iTunes Connect IIRC

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      2. Andreas Linde ‏@therealkerni 18 Sep 2015

        @nilsou @kyleve It should be possible from Xcode organizer, not iTC. But at least for Testflight builds it is not working

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      1. Boris Yurkevich ‏@borisyurkevich 18 Sep 2015

        @therealkerni do you mean third party crash reporting or Xcode crash reporting?

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      2. Andreas Linde ‏@therealkerni 18 Sep 2015

        @borisyurkevich 3rd party and currently Testflight builds are also affected when grabbing the report from the device directly

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      3. Boris Yurkevich ‏@borisyurkevich 18 Sep 2015

        @therealkerni thanks, all I care is native OTA crash reporting. Helped me many times.

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      1. Graeme Read ‏@graemer957 17 Sep 2015

        @therealkerni woah, not good. Will follow your advice in your support article. Thanks.

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      2. Evan Cheng ‏@TheBeet1 17 Sep 2015

        @graemer957 @therealkerni Developers can download dSYMs, after compilation in the App Store, from the Archives Organizer.

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      3. Graeme Read ‏@graemer957 17 Sep 2015

        @TheBeet1 @therealkerni great - thanks for the info. Should be able to upload this to HockeyApp for symbolicating crash reports 👏🏻

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