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    1. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

      This is the end of subsection 3, the first half of this first chapter. This is the minimalizing ground-clearing that Laruelle requires before moving forward with what is at stake in Nietzsche-thought

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    2. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

      Approaching Nietzschean auto-critique in a non-idealist way...requires subordinating these oppositions to “forces”, i.e. partial organs of power...pic.twitter.com/efsZPmM7MO

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    3. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

      ...due to the relation’s principally political dynamics, taut between a fascistic pole of condensation and a subversive pole of disseminationpic.twitter.com/PxIrKvXDNI

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    4. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

      The four terms of the chiasmus/quadripartition (fascistic/revolutionary, mastery/rebellion) but must be related to the “complex unity of the problematic”pic.twitter.com/Yhrqa1Duwd

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    5. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

      The linguistic power of exploting Nietzsche’s (or any author’s) text is contaminated from the start politically, especially for Nietzsche, because the relation is constitutively political.pic.twitter.com/ESsrImQWEp

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    6. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

      When fascism and revolution are no longer considered definable externally but from the aspect of “each going to the end of what it can do”: ERS/WP as selectivity of the extremes (cf. Deleuze’s Difference and Repetition, p. xx, 6, etc. —ctrl+f search for “selection”).pic.twitter.com/GPlJzwhL9z

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    7. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

      Nietzsche “wills” his own falsification against his interpreters [“have I been understood?”]; here Lar quotes from Klossowski’s Nietzsche and the Vicious Circle; the co-belonging of the terms of the quadrature that forms a “break in our knowledge of politics”.pic.twitter.com/GZaZVSAs9O

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    8. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

      The goal of the book Nietzsche contre Heidegger is provisionally defined here: how does Nietzsche crucially and successfully “assume fascism in history the better to vanquish it”? (Etymologically, vanquish means “to overcome” in its Proto-Indo-European root *weyk-).pic.twitter.com/nMfVhlTeol

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    9. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

      1: The knot (or node) of the quadripartition recuts [recoupe] and recoups all the relations. 2: Something in “‘Nietzsche’” resists the various ways in which his name might have currency in methods of reading and inscribing his name (one should think of a Nietzsche effect)pic.twitter.com/40TxV4W93H

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    10. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

      To parse the “belch of the Christo-leftist” takes at least two things: 1: An allusion to how Nietzsche will sign his last letters, post-collapse, as Dionysus-Christ; 2: in reference to Jambet and Lardreau’s L’Ange, which will get discussion in the upcoming paragraphspic.twitter.com/cgIlLTuhpn

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      theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

      My translator’s footnote is important for understanding *absance* (read Derrida’s coinage of différance) and “in?visibility” (I wager the guess that it is from Deleuze’s coinage of ?-being in Difference and Repetion, p. 64, 202, 203, 205).pic.twitter.com/fjMp1Q21to

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        2. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

          Revamping a concept of Hegel’s, Laruelle describes the “doctrine” of Nietzsche—the traditionally visible part—for the revolutionary pole is “ideological, relatively...necessary and objective appearance”.pic.twitter.com/wMbx97PrEw

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        3. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

          This political objective appearance in its extreme historical form is Fascism. Lar sees Nietzsche compromised *with* (not by) fascism, in order to elevate it qua transcendental appearance and reveal it qua ideological appearance, then subject it to a “radically materalist usage”.pic.twitter.com/pA5efMhC52

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        4. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

          Here is where Heidegger’s name first enters the text, but he will not become explictly juxtaposed with Nietzsche until part 3 of this book 150 pages later. The footnote here, though, seems to indicate the more immediate (in time) specter of this misreading: L’Ange.pic.twitter.com/TFhOiz1u8X

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        5. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

          Here is the long footnote. It’s clear that Laruelle has no patience for Jambet and Lardreau “Anti-Nietzscheanism” (against “desire” i.e. Anti-Oedipus). Laruelle gives us a hint, too, in his formulation of his theses: a polemics against Heidegger’s most insidious misunderstanding.pic.twitter.com/FLr14q6Anm

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        6. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

          This foreshadows the advent of a Nietzschean uni-versalization of textuality/politics that Laruelle calls “politico-libidinal”. It is a question of the proper version of the adversion and perversion of Heidegger’s “Nietzsche” (H’s text on FN tells us more about H than FN anyway).pic.twitter.com/7k6DGoCAqt

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        7. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

          Part of this is a long series of puns involved in overcoding and translating some Heidggerian “Turn” locutions: Gegen-kehre, Um-Kehre, Über-kehre, but the issue is deadly serious, insofar as Heidegger tends to emphasize a polemically fascisizing reading of Nietzschepic.twitter.com/TRo5AwPEgS

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        8. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

          Nietzsche-thought demands to be dealt with because his specificity is “to bind...this process of fascisization...and the political and material conditions of its subversion”. The risk is to embrace the adversary the better to smother him.pic.twitter.com/3lqdUPZmOC

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        9. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

          “Nietzsche prefers to flow with the adversary, provided that the adversary drowns”. As Laruelle points out, crucifying Nietzsche, the Marxist or Christian critics (Jambet and Lardreau et alia) show “how little yet they have overcome the fascism in themselves”. End of subsection 5pic.twitter.com/91jnP5rXzG

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        10. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

          The last subsection begins with a summary of the overarching theme elaborated in the previous 5 subsections.pic.twitter.com/o9w4gKWKjW

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        11. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

          A minuscule polemic against the complicity of psychoanalysis and signifying linguistics (this polemic will form the substance of the first two chapters for Guattari’s Machinic Unconscious 2 years later).pic.twitter.com/3qx5nLMLmm

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        12. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

          The signifier taken exclusively and to the end of what it can do leads to a process of fascisization; for forces (non-signifying elements and anti-signifying agents), taken to the end of what they can do leads to “an ‘autonomous’ process of rebellion”.pic.twitter.com/3BvRCnuvJd

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        13. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

          Here’s the footnote alongside this quest for a better word than “world” (or becoming-world, as he says above); note the distinction between Lar’s footnote and my translator’s note.pic.twitter.com/gGWewYPAGn

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        14. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

          This notion of a relation of duplicity rather than duality, which shipwrecks monism and skywrecks dualism, is the subversive seed that Nietzsche plants in all the simple binary terms by which thought becomes concretely manipulablepic.twitter.com/X4agVf2xNX

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        15. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

          Time to saddle up, strap in, roll the dice, amor fati...the word precipice [crête] means less a perilous edge and more of a dizzying height; it is gravity itself, and not a simple misstep, that becomes dangerouspic.twitter.com/WxbDGJECVF

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        16. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

          “master-proletariat” perhaps looks misleading in translation; in the French “prolétariat-maître”, which makes it clear that this is a question of a duplicitous (dual) relation, not an oxymoron of master as adjective describing proletariat. The rest of the passage describes this.pic.twitter.com/IoBRk1OzLl

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        17. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 7

          This description of the non-reflexivity of the Rebel qua Rebel really echoes with Jean-François Lyotard’s description of the minoritarian qua minoritarian: cf. https://vastabrupt.com/2018/03/12/lyotard-brief-putting-perspective-decadence/ … over @vastabrupt , also translated by @tadkins613pic.twitter.com/l84yBsThiA

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        18. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 8

          A question of rereading the history of humanity as duplicitous. This is to hypercomplexify Rousseau’s Origins of Inequality with Nietzsche’s breaking of history in two.pic.twitter.com/n9B2zLMQty

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        19. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 8

          Here is the footnote explaining what Laruelle is emphasizing with this reflexive formulation. Again, notice the distinction between Lar’s note and minepic.twitter.com/wLMadEA6bL

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        20. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 8

          As you may have seen, throughout, I have opted translating Rebel pronomially as “she” and Master pronomially as “he” when this was necessary. Obviously, in French nouns already have genders, so their pronouns are arbitrary; here, I kept one for each to retain consistency.pic.twitter.com/AF8TrmHGKt

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        21. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 8

          Here, Foucault can be brought into dialogue, for as he wrote a year earlier in History of Sexuality, vol. 1 (1976), where he warns us of being too celebratory in the rise of discourses of liberation. “Tomorrow sex will be good again”, as Foucault mockspic.twitter.com/OBp4Zpezhu

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        22. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 8

          Here is the closing lines of chapter 1. Please visit https://fractalontology.wordpress.com/2018/05/06/new-translation-of-francois-laruelles-nietzsche-contre-heidegger-chapter-1/ … for the standalone textpic.twitter.com/JTA2PrVlwK

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        23. theory_talk‏ @theory_talk May 8

          @threadreaderapp unroll please, and hopefully this layout will work

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        24. End of conversation

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