I genuinely hope the man I marry is uncircumcised.
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You underestimate the power of women's mating and choices.
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Men are also attracted to men and women’s opinions on gay mens bodies will not change anything.
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If no circ’d men could get laid? If all women scorned mutilated penises? It would end immediately.
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Gay men exist honey. And you shouldn’t punish grown men for mistakes that their parents made and they had no part in. That’s not forward moving at all.
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Some gay men can & do also state a whole penis as a preference or requirement in a future partner. Doing so doesn't "punish" anyone. This isn't Huxley's Brave New World where "everybody belongs to everybody else."
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You can't expect people to act as if they might enjoy sex w/a certain type of body part when they're convinced (for whatever reason) they won't. When that kind of brutal honesty is necessary, the message is better delivered asap, not when clothes are coming off.
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You might say the polite thing to do would be to invent a little white lie to avoid hurt feelings ("it's not you it's me"). And if the problem was almost anything else, or if you knew he was firmly against circumcision, I might agree w/you. The trouble w/that approach...
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...is that he may never learn there's a downside to being cut, & you can't underestimate a cut man's tendency to rationalize it. A polite but firm rejection for that reason, as painful as it might be, could end up being the thing that ultimately saves his sons from being cut.
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Ok. But parents do not know if their infant sons are going to be gay. And if it was known, widely, that women in general prefer intact men, and they refused to date cut men, they would not restrict his future dating choices.
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Parents don’t always circumcise their children with their future sex lives in mind. A lot of parents do it because that’s what the believe they should do, they’re under the impression that it’s more sanitary, or it’s a cultural norm.
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Cultural norms are driven as much by women's choices as by men's. Even the 'hygiene' argument is getting thin. And you haven't seen the number of people I have arguing that they cut their son because 'women don't like turtlenecks'.
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In fact, in a discussion with my sister, where I debunked every claim she made in favour of it, her last line of defence was 'Well, if I have a boy, I'll get him cut, because his future girlfriends will thank me.' What if they wouldn't?
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This is why I will say, very openly, that I actually PREFER intact men, that is a desirable trait for me. It's not a deal-breaker, but it's definitely a pro.
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