https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/29/us/homicide-rise-us-report/index.html … “A study of homicides during the first six months of this year in 22 cities showed that the number of murders increased by 16% compared to the same period in 2020 and by 42% compared to the first six months of 2019.”
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Replying to @the_watcher @SusanDReynolds and
Did Boudin cause murder rates to go up nationwide or was it some other strange thing that made 2020 and the first half of 2021 different than the past?
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LOL. “Something something national problem.” SF apologists love to point national statistics and overlook the horrific local evidence. “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”https://twitter.com/stuz5000/status/1424518348725915648 …
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SF Footgun @stuz5000Replying to @netfire4 @Squalle01 and 2 othersThe facts disagree. SF’s hockey stick of death immediately followed the removal of disincentives for personal drug use in prop 47 and arrived several years before fentanyl made waves locally. The growth in death is absolutely earlier and more severe as a consequence of policy.3 replies 1 retweet 7 likes -
Replying to @stuz5000 @the_watcher and
Something something national problem? https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/How-does-San-Francisco-s-overdose-crisis-16283106.php …pic.twitter.com/uSXjs0fbeS
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Replying to @stuz5000 @the_watcher and
Almost every fentanyl overdose is a homicide that the city hides from the statistics. If someone says they are selling you a Dr Pepper, and it has some other medicine in it that stops your heart, and you die, that is a homicide. Period.
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Replying to @vjon @the_watcher and
Wait,
@chesaboudin said#CrimeIsDown? This literal mile of 720 corpses wasn't included in SF’s 2020 crime stats. Addicts not treated like real people by the DA? I'm shocked.1 reply 2 retweets 9 likes -
Poisoning yourself is a crime?
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Replying to @the_watcher @stuz5000 and
That’s not what I’m saying. Poisoning someone *else* with a mislabeled product is a crime. Most fentanyl is an adulterant. But technically any death that results from a felony or reckless indifference is a homicide, **whether we as a society choose to prosecute or not**pic.twitter.com/kLMl3Zz9XC
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Replying to @vjon @the_watcher and
We weren’t talking about crime as defined by how many people we put in jail for crimes. If we were the DA could put no people in jail and say there were zero crimes. We were talking about measuring harms to society. That’s what crime stats are.
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Replying to @vjon @the_watcher and
I’m that context, fentanyl ODs are clearly homicides that should be counted in the statistics to measure the effects of whatever policy approach we are currently using.
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If this is true, then we have a different problem. I don’t believe that the people I see shooting up don’t know what they are doing. What is the source for your claim that “most fentanyl is added as an adulterant”?
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Replying to @the_watcher @vjon and
People who smoke cigarettes cause far more harm to society than fentanyl. Should that be counted as illegal as well? Should we jail the tobacco companies?
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What about people who drive a lot? They cause immeasurable harm to society, via pollution, traffic deaths and global warming. Is it time to lock them up too?
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