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    1. Sam Parr  ⚪️‏ @theSamParr Aug 7
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      If you’re in the wealth accumulation phase of your life, I think buying a home is a terrible decision (in most cases). Prove me wrong. Seriously. I’m not being rhetorical. I want to see if there’s math that says otherwise.

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    2. Kevin Curtin‏ @elementko1 Aug 7
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      Everyone forgets foregone rent in the calculus. The incremental cost of ownership in e.g. Manhattan is offset by mortgage interest deduction and equity appreciation plus the chance to flip to an incremental cash flow asset at 0 marginal cost when you move out.

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    3. Sam Parr  ⚪️‏ @theSamParr Aug 7
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      What do you think would come out on top after 10 years :a $300k down payment on a residence in Manhattan plus other costs or $300k average investment property or stocks while renting $5k/month? Broad question. But what are you thoughts

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    4. Kevin Curtin‏ @elementko1 Aug 7
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      At the “end” of one of those paths I have a New York City real estate asset that can create rental income for me after it has already created some appreciation. The reasons I’m motivated to buy are:

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    5. Kevin Curtin‏ @elementko1 Aug 7
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      - LBO-style equity value creation. In no other asset will the market structure give me 80% LTV to acquire the appreciation and future cash flow potential of an asset. - Mortgage interest deduction. My effective tax rate in Manhattan is high; deducting interest expense

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    6. Kevin Curtin‏ @elementko1 Aug 7
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      vs. paying rent post-tax feels more economically efficient. - Asset ownership. At the end of the “decision period” (let’s say 5yrs owning vs renting), when I own, I can choose to sell or rent that asset out, which in a favorable market environment has a higher NPV

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    7. Kevin Curtin‏ @elementko1 Aug 7
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      Than having created no option value by paying rent. - Future liquidity source: down the line, appreciated equity in a home can be tapped in a few different ways without selling the home and all of the ways are low cost of capital with tax advantages

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    8. Kevin Curtin‏ @elementko1 Aug 7
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      Wealth comes from owning assets - and real estate is just one. But passing up on 80% LTV on an asset that also offsets my need to pay rent to someone else is too good to pass up.

      1 reply 0 retweets 18 likes
    9. Kevin Curtin‏ @elementko1 Aug 7
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      Related: @michaelbatnick and @awealthofcs just did a great “economics of home ownership” episode of their podcast that dove deep on this

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      Sam Parr  ⚪️‏ @theSamParr Aug 7
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      Replying to @elementko1 @michaelbatnick @awealthofcs

      I’ll be in ny in three weeks. I’ll see what’s there. I’ll let you be my lender at 2.5% :)

      10:47 PM - 7 Aug 2020
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        2. DowntownGuy‏ @DowntownGuy212 Aug 8
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          so much to say here.. i) leveraging a 1-2% cap manhattan apt is not analogous to an LBO at 6x EBITDA at all,

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        3. DowntownGuy‏ @DowntownGuy212 Aug 8
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          , ii) “mortgage interest deduct - my effective tax rate is high” - I think this is some sort of humble brag but once you have a family and are paying $10k to $15k a month in rent, that $1.5k mortgage interest deduct ($750k cap) is not going to feel significant,

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