Yelp and Mahalo didn't think they were about to get completely fucked either. You're trusting a company with a history of doing this over and overpic.twitter.com/iDwdkyiWaJ
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What % of email is gmail? How much traffic does yelp get via seo vs how much of that is lost for ads taking their search? These feel like emotional arguments not logical ones. Platform dependence is a problem but the reality is you don’t have many options around it.
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I think email is probably safe but "probably" would scare me if 100% of my business depended on it. Mahalo went out of biz because of this, Yelp and Genius have well documented legal battles, Zynga with FB platformhttps://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/01/technology/yelp-google-european-union-antitrust.html …
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Replying to @SoroushG_ @FurqanR and
At the end of the day, I think these platforms are just doing what's good for their consumers and advertisers. Gmail already sends 70% of emails to "promotions", their leniency with newsletters could diminish as inboxes become more saturated with them.
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The "our readers opt-ed in" argument also doesn't make much sense here cause Google literally stopped putting videos from subscribed YouTubers in user feeds(even though that's the point) because it was too saturated. FB does the same thing with pages.
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I believe gmail is ~25% of all email, and i do agree they'll adjust who can see what to some degree. More talking about platform dependence and how you really have no choice. What options do you have to build something that isn't dependent on a platform? SMS (maybe), crypto?
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This is why a lot of the decentralized tech is interesting, it tries to invert our current structure where centralized parties have formed. Also yelp complaining about google abusing their platform is funny b/c they do the same
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How do you get away from platform dependence? Social (fb/twitter) -> comm (gmail, telco) -> apps (app store / play store) -> website (chrome / safari) -> Native app (windows / mac osx) -> linux binary served on torrent? Every layer has control, pick the one that works for you
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Platform dependence when you don't have the same incentives as the platform you're built on is scary. There's also a massive difference between those that actively editorialize and those that don't. Gmail, FB, twtr, etc already pick and chose, OS and browser don't.
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yup, they all have some different traits. so lets say we group them by editorialize vs not. The main difference between those 2: communication from your service -> your users? comes down to understanding the limitations of what you're building on and accounting for it
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If 100% of your revenue comes from email advertising, then yes - that's a HORRIBLE position to be in.
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