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Chris Siebenmann
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Chris Siebenmann
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Chris Siebenmann

@thatcks

That cks. Overcommitted sysadmin, photographer, bicyclist, and other multitudes. I write a lot of words for a programmer.

Joined December 2011
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    Chris Siebenmann ‏@thatcks 20 Oct 2014

    #ZFS people, especially people doing NFS fileservice: have you run into serious problems with 100% full pools on current #IllumOS #OmniOS ?

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      1. Chris Siebenmann ‏@thatcks 20 Oct 2014

        Here by serious #ZFS problems I mean system lockups or catastrophic lack of performance that's basically equivalent to a dead fileserver.

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      3. Dan McDonald ‏@kebesays 20 Oct 2014

        @thatcks Oh shoot, I didn't read down here this far. You're on r151012 already, aren't you?

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      4. Chris Siebenmann ‏@thatcks 20 Oct 2014

        @kebesays We're still on r151010. We haven't had problems on OmniOS so far, but we just had an old S10U8 blow up this way so we're curious.

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      6. Dan McDonald ‏@kebesays 20 Oct 2014

        (1/2) @thatcks Full pools are generally considered a bad idea, for reasons others have mentioned. Still, there's ongoing work, and...

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      7. Chris Siebenmann ‏@thatcks 20 Oct 2014

        @kebesays Sadly, full pools are generally a political issue that we can't do anything about; we charge for space and users are autonomous.

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      9. (((Nahum Shalman))) ‏@nahumshalman 20 Oct 2014

        @thatcks @kebesays You can't put quotas on them to prevent hitting 100%?

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      10. Chris Siebenmann ‏@thatcks 20 Oct 2014

        @nahumshalman @kebesays They get all of their pool now. We'd have to add an extra bit of disk space to their pool & then quota-limit it off.

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      11. (((Nahum Shalman))) ‏@nahumshalman 20 Oct 2014

        @thatcks @kebesays Are you putting pools on top of HW RAID / SAN rather than creating a big pool and handing out file systems?!

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      1. Mike Zeller ‏@papertigerss 20 Oct 2014

        @thatcks @ceejbot yea you should never fill a zpool all the way up. You won't even be able to delete files because of COW

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      2. Dan McDonald ‏@kebesays 20 Oct 2014

        @papertigerss @thatcks @ceejbot A deletion improvement - https://github.com/illumos/illumos-gate/commit/4bb73804952172060c9efb163b89c17f56804fe8 … + https://illumos.org/issues/4950  . Also in #omnios r151012.

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    1. smerz ‏@smerz_ 21 Oct 2014

      @thatcks it's best practice to keep your pool below 70-80% to avoid zfs ganging. Also fragmentation can be an issue

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    2. Mike Zeller ‏@papertigerss 20 Oct 2014

      @thatcks @ceejbot rule of thumb a few years ago was 80% full. You also hit performance issues when over that. Not as bad as it was though

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