"Refeeeding (carbohydrates) will fill our muscles with glycogen and induce a strongly anabolic state. This is critical for both the maintenance of both muscle mass & training intensity" Glycogen is a necessity for resistance training. Prove me wrong. http://www.simplyshredded.com/carbohydrate-tolerance-frontline-fat-loss-written-by-nutrition-expert-david-barr.html …
So you're saying basically every bodybuilder and professional athlete. The people who spend millions a year to hire doctors and trainers, are wrong?
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Basically everyone but you is wrong is what your argument has been when we talk dieting.
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No. There are advantages to carbs as there are advantages to high protein, but there's metabolic tradeoffs.
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That is debatable. I would say if you don't have intolerances and are a hyper-responder like
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If you limit carbs to 150-200 g/day or control feeding/fasting windows,, you're not gonna get hyperinsulinemia or metabolic disorder.
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If the system is not broken then I concur it won't lead to metabolic disorder in a relatively healthy individual. However it will have insuligenic effects and effect satiety hormones. See
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It depends on how they're eaten and what they're eaten w/. 100 g carbs/day eaten w/lotsa fat+fiber won't spike blood sugar or create a big insulin response. 500 g carbs/day w/o much fat and little fiber will create serious problems.
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I'm currently on 260g protein. 350 carbs. 120 fats. I'm gaining ~1lb a week. All my lifts are going up. Musculature is full. Pumps are juicy af. Energy levels are fine. I'm just not convinced what I'm doing is wrong. Then again, that's why I made this thread.
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That's a lot of protein. I eat about half of that.
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I just didn't want to raise carbs anymore. I prefer being around 200-220 protein.
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Valuable asset is not a useful metric to gauge and assess if it optimizes performance. The only credible reason to use carbohydrates is to induce hormesis (jensen's inequality). Other than that there is no evolutionary need.
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Just cuz there isn't a need doesn't mean it isn't useful. If you're a skinny kid who can't eat enough food to get bigger, you're doing the kid a disservice telling him to not eat carbs. Evolutionarily, higher carbs can drop protein needs which can be very helpful.
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I actually agree with this. In a way carb intake can be viewed as "training" wheels for newbies. Obviously I wouldn't advocate for absurd carb loading like the fitness industry pushes for (400-700g) but a couple potatoes and some rice for a new dieter is harmless.
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Carbs taste great no doubt about it. As taleb says the three most addicting things are "carbohydrates, heroin and a monthly salary". However let's not delude ourselves into thinking they are necessary or that somebody who can't gain weight needs to consume copious amounts of it.
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Carbs aren't essential in human nutrition. I don't think most of us are making that claim.
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I think they have harmful and deliterious effects downstream and the biofeedback is latent at times. When you age, when your telomeres shorten, you will lose the sensitivity you once had and if you treated your engine like shit, you'll pay the price for it.
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Excess protein (mainly leucine and metathione) have the same aging effects. IGF1 and mTOR pathways get activated by large amounts of leucine and metathione consumption. Something like bone broth and the proteins it contains have the opposite effect on aging.
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Counter my assertion not toss around universal non sequitors and false equivalencies. Even your logic is inebriated. I have no desire to wake you from your illusion.
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So you're dyslexic. Got you.
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