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    1. halvarflake‏ @halvarflake 27 Feb 2018
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      #CEPStaskforce Question: The argument was advanced by MSFT that users are best protected if no vulnerability information is published prior to the availability of a patch. How does this balance against the argument that "users need to know about the security properties of ...

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    2. halvarflake‏ @halvarflake 27 Feb 2018
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      .. their products so they can make informed risk decisions.". Is MSFT's position based on the assumption that all users have uniform cost for getting hacked? How does the vendor estimate the cost of getting hacked for at-risk users?

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    3. Mudge‏ @dotMudge 27 Feb 2018
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      I grappled with this when I was responsible for 10k plus systems during the day and releasing l0pht advisories by night. When I knew the details prior a patch being available I could always mitigate the risk with other controls. Vendor patch dependence is learned helplessness.

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    4. Tim Brown‏ @timb_machine 27 Feb 2018
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      There are almost always mitigations that can be employed.

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      Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 27 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @timb_machine @dotMudge @halvarflake

      Even if there wasn't, which I agree is unlikely, I want to be the one to decide if I should disable my service and I want the information necessary to make an informed decision. I know - blasphemy!

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        1. grsecurity‏ @grsecurity 28 Feb 2018
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          Trying to force vulnerabilities into the "vulnerability is discovered, here's the immediate fix, failure to apply in time is now your problem" also reinforces the lack of attention/funding for proactive defenses as well as the mindset of security being achieved through bugfixes

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