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    Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 15 Dec 2017
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    Everyone wants there to be simple answers in security, but sometimes there are no simple answers.

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      2. Justin Berman‏ @justinmberman 15 Dec 2017
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        Replying to @taviso @haroonmeer

        On the flip side, sometimes there are really simple answers that can address low hanging fruit. They just don’t feel as sexy. Example the comes to mind, 2FA.

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      3. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 16 Dec 2017
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        Even then, it's not that simple. For example, SMS-2FA is basically worthless. U2F on the other hand, while not a panacea, is fantastic if implemented correctly.

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      2. Artem I. Baranov‏ @artem_i_baranov 15 Dec 2017
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        "Any complicated question has simple answer and it's always incorrect".

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      3. 0x acdc‏ @0xacdc 15 Dec 2017
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        Replying to @artem_i_baranov @taviso

        I knew it like this: "For every (complex) problem, there is a solution which is simple, neat and usually... Wrong."

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      1. Paul Vixie‏ @paulvixie 15 Dec 2017
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        dan geer found a simple answer. "security will always be precisely as bad as it can be." from that, it's possible to reason toward simple, but painful, but necessary, next steps.

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      1. Dawid Balut‏ @thedawidbalut 15 Dec 2017
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        On a flipside - so many ppl make basic security things complex and cumbersome, while those can be approached in a way that makes them easy and user friendly. I think we need to be more balanced, work on removing our tunnel vision and reverse eng everything to the basics

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      1. Haifei Li‏ @HaifeiLi 15 Dec 2017
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        I think it's "most times".

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      1. Damian‏ @decryptlyfe 15 Dec 2017
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        sometimes there are no answers either.

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      1. chuck io:r//us‏ @io_r_us 17 Dec 2017
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        I assume transpilers such as Haxe may prove to be part of notable security improvements. These require for a single target to receive optimizations as to have guaranteed more secure code deployed. Introduce extra controls to require people to develop more securely for each lang

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