If you insist on running untrusted executables and refuse to fix that problem, then you're screwed and antivirus doesn't change that. It's plausible AV will increase the amount of time your system is usable between reinstalls, but that is not security.
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Yep, but the context here is "how to not get hacked" guides. If you're not running random untrusted executables, then antivirus is a liability. If you are running untrusted exes, then you're gonna get hacked.
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So "don't use antivirus" does have a place in these guides, right above the explanation of how trust works with executables.
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I don't think it's as complicated as people claim. People understand how to evaluate if they would let you use their laptop in person if you asked. They don't understand that running an exe you wrote is exactly equivalent. IMO, when you explain it like this people get it.
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Unfortunately their "want it now" & "will agree to any EULA" won't stop them. We're still educating people not to click phishing email links. This is why I have been voicing the concept of
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Arghh haha. Please don't tell people "don't click on phishing links", that is really bad advice. It's not possible to determine if a link is trusted or not before you click it, you have to click it and then read the address bar. I'm getting pulled into too many debates tonight
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Heh, that wasn't point. My point is that people are unprotected in general. But if you can change their concept of isolation (do banking in this domain, do coins in this. only check email here), you gain automatic protection from attacks (i have no virus scanner in qubes). :)
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Ah, sure, probably beyond the scope of the guides we're discussing though.
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