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Vulnerability researcher at Google. This is a personal stream, opinions expressed are mine.

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    1. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 3 Dec 2016
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      But why let a little thing like that get in the way of selling your magic water?

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    2. Carl Gottlieb‏ @CarlGottlieb 3 Dec 2016
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      So your argument is that if something (such as AV) isn't perfect it is a net negative?

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    3. Vess‏ @VessOnSecurity 3 Dec 2016
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      His argument is that since AV can't be perfect, it's useless. So, AV with vulns is harmful.

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    4. Vess‏ @VessOnSecurity 3 Dec 2016
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      Replying to @VessOnSecurity @CarlGottlieb and

      And let's just ignore the millions of cases where AV has helped. It can't always help, so..

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    5. Carl Gottlieb‏ @CarlGottlieb 3 Dec 2016
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      But that argument would mean all imperfect products, research & researchers are useless 😉

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    6. Vess‏ @VessOnSecurity 3 Dec 2016
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      Replying to @CarlGottlieb @taviso and

      Yeah. I never understood why he doesn't find medicine useless, etc.

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    7. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 3 Dec 2016
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      Replying to @VessOnSecurity @CarlGottlieb and

      Haha. AV is "imperfect" in the same way that a sieve is an imperfect boat.

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    8. Justin Schuh  😷‏ @justinschuh 3 Dec 2016
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      Or keeping the medical analogy, AV is to security what homeopathy is to medicine.

      5 replies 17 retweets 42 likes
    9. Vess‏ @VessOnSecurity 3 Dec 2016
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      Replying to @justinschuh @taviso and

      Unlike AV homeopathy doesn't do anything.

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    10. Carl Gottlieb‏ @CarlGottlieb 3 Dec 2016
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      Replying to @VessOnSecurity @justinschuh and

      Fact - AV blocks millions of malware every day. Is anyone going to dispute this?

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      Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 3 Dec 2016
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      Replying to @CarlGottlieb @VessOnSecurity and

      Fact - A sieve repels trillions of water molecules. Still not a great boat though.

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        2. Carl Gottlieb‏ @CarlGottlieb 3 Dec 2016
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          Agreed, but we're talking about AV, and you haven't disagreed with my fact statement yet.

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        3. Justin Schuh  😷‏ @justinschuh 3 Dec 2016
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          Millions of events? Certainly. 3rd-party AV blocking real, unmitigated threats? Data?

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        1.  👋‏ @AllahuHaxbar 6 Dec 2016
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          i just made a exploit to webdefase all the izy -z users. Have fun!

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