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    1. Alex Ionescu‏ @aionescu Apr 25
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      This was indeed silently fixed in 19H1. Really wish the company would get in the business of crediting (no need for money/CVEs) researchers that help find bugs.https://twitter.com/aionescu/status/981671095362174978 …

      Alex Ionescu added,

      Alex Ionescu @aionescu
      Six months ago I submitted an unprivileged local DoS (BSOD) in all versions of Windows. It was closed as “Won’t fix” and marked that it would be looked into for vNext. I kept the tweetable PoC to myself. The next release is RTM and still has the bug. The fix is a one line change.
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    2. 0xff00‏ @faisalusuf Apr 25
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      Next time make it public along with exploit. They will pay for reputation when at stake. They are capitalist, want profits only.

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    3. Alex Ionescu‏ @aionescu Apr 25
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      Replying to @faisalusuf

      Not a huge fan of extorsion

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    4. Joseph Bialek‏ @JosephBialek Apr 25
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      It's not really extorsion. When we "won't fix" a bug, that decision also means "we are comfortable with the bug going public". FWIW I also think we should do a better job crediting folks, but nobody minds you tweeting these out.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    5. Alex Ionescu‏ @aionescu Apr 25
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      Replying to @JosephBialek @faisalusuf

      Throughout the last 20 years I’ve been doing research, I’ve been asked by multiple people at all aspects of management not to tweet/publicize “WontFix” or patched bugs, so while your thoughts are nice & fair, they don’t match the reality of senior leadership’s expectations.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Joseph Bialek‏ @JosephBialek Apr 25
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      I can't speak for your experiences obviously, but this is the policy for MSRC. Won't fix == finder can feel free to talk about the bug. If we're not comfortable with that we should be fixing it.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    7. Alex Ionescu‏ @aionescu Apr 25
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      Replying to @JosephBialek @faisalusuf

      I’ve had people in MSRC ask me this, not just WDG/COSINE. You should bring this up to your leaders :)

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso Apr 25
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      Replying to @aionescu @JosephBialek @faisalusuf

      I dunno, sometimes senior leaders aren't familiar with the policy minutiae of every product area they oversee. It's fine to let someone know you've heard a contradictory request, they might just need someone to bring them up to speed on the rationale, etc.

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    9. Alex Ionescu‏ @aionescu Apr 25
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      Replying to @taviso @JosephBialek @faisalusuf

      Yeah letting a GPM or SVP know about “the policy, please talk to this IC down there” is a great tactic ;-)

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      Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso Apr 25
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      Replying to @aionescu @JosephBialek @faisalusuf

      I dunno about Microsoft, but if an SVP at Google told you that, pinging someone like @sirdarckcat or @parityzero would 100% work 🤷🏻‍♂️

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        2. Eduardo Vela‏ @sirdarckcat Apr 26
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          Yea, it happens often that we have to act as firewalls between "normal" PMs/Execs and security researchers. Security teams are also there to help security researchers. I can't imagine what it would be like if you had to negotiate with every other PM at Google.

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        3. HackrzVijay  💻‏ @hackrzvijay Apr 26
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          Replying to @sirdarckcat @taviso and

          According to my opinion is the way @GoogleVRP handling the reports and communication with the security researchers are awesome...

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