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    1. Heather Adkins - r00t folding team #258829‏ @argvee Apr 1
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      Would like to know more here about whether this was responsibly disclosed and time given to the Zoom team to fix it. https://twitter.com/zackwhittaker/status/1245350371876315137 …

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    2. Alex Stamos‏Verified account @alexstamos Apr 1
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      Replying to @argvee

      Yes. Just because they are in the news doesn't make dropping 0-day in Techcrunch appropriate.

      2 replies 4 retweets 31 likes
    3. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso Apr 1
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      Replying to @alexstamos @argvee

      Disagree, it's a problem with the installation, and installations are spiking *now*, not in six months. Now is the time to make sure people are aware of the risks, good work @patrickwardle. This is what real responsible disclosure looks like.

      5 replies 33 retweets 165 likes
    4. daveaitel‏ @daveaitel Apr 1
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      Replying to @taviso @alexstamos and

      People think that the responsible and responsible disclosure means that You have some sort of weird responsibility to the vendor when that is in fact not the case :)

      6 replies 10 retweets 64 likes
    5. nobody‏ @imaguid Apr 1
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      Replying to @daveaitel @taviso and

      indeed. one's responsibility isn't to the vendor, it's to the users who would potentially become victims. the way to avoid that is to give the vendor as much of an advantage over attackers as possible

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    6. Art Manion‏ @zmanion Apr 1
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      Replying to @imaguid @daveaitel and

      ^^^ this. And it's not always the case that telling the vendor first/privately is best for potential victims, but it often is.

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    7. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso Apr 1
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      Replying to @zmanion @imaguid and

      That is self-serving garbage, "The best way to help victims is to make sure they don't know we sold them a shoddy product", how convenient. As a consumer, I want to know if you sold me a lemon, so I can tell you what I expect you to do about it.

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    8. Art Manion‏ @zmanion Apr 1
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      Replying to @taviso @imaguid and

      A couple things: Lots of users have no idea how to assess security, which is half the lemon problem. They depend on vendors. Second, huge benefits to publishing vulns, w/details. The CVD bet is that it's net lower risk to give vendor (even Zoom) a head start.

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      Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso Apr 1
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      Replying to @zmanion @imaguid and

      I don't know how to assess mechanical problems in my car, I still want you to tell me about design flaws.

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