As I mentioned, I appreciate your feedback. OSTs are not dependent on a bug. Some percentage of people will always do whatever they want to do. This is security; there's no absolutes, and there's no finish line. Only winning, losing, and lost. Thanks again for the dialogue.
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Replying to @anthomsec @QW5kcmV3 and
I should start leaving shivs all over every city I visit and see what happens when my lawyers cite infosec Twitter. I'm sure I'll go fine. (Narrator: it won't.)
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What is the shiv in your scenario? I think you can leave copies of nmap all over town and nobody would care. You might get cited for littering, but that's it.
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nmap isn't an OST.
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Replying to @anthomsec @QW5kcmV3 and
Pretty sure you're not in charge of what qualifies as a tool, and a reasonable person would agree it's useful as a security tool in an offensive context.
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Nuance is what enables categorization which is why people are scared of definition. People have been "but what about PSEXEC" since the onset of the conversation, but the conversation is a lot more mature than that at this stage. I didn't think you still wanted to engage though.
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Replying to @anthomsec @QW5kcmV3 and
I think that conversation predates psexec.... By about a century
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This is the point of the conversation where I get upset and tap out. You obviously know so much that other peole are wrong, you’re right, claiming there’s no merit for discussion despite discussing it. Its anti progressive as fuck. Everything is figured out, pack up and go home.
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Replying to @uncl3dumby @QW5kcmV3 and
Sorry to hear that, let me know if this really was the one and you solved it.
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Replying to @taviso @uncl3dumby and
I think the idea that security is a solvable problem is interesting. I don't think it is. Even if you find and patch all the bugs. What's left is becoming efficient and creating friction for adversaries. That includes raising the cost to conduct operations.
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I think I've been pretty clear that I'm not interested in debating this. Let's do vi vs Emacs instead, that one's more productive 
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Replying to @taviso @uncl3dumby and
I respect your exit from the conversation. For anyone else interested in reading, I've written preliminary thoughts in my blog:https://medium.com/@QW5kcmV3/misconceptions-unrestricted-release-of-offensive-security-tools-789299c72afe …
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