Hey, release more offense tools. Pearl clutching about helping the bad guys is so 1853. Thus spake k8em0stra. Seriously, times have not changed. Defenders need modern offense tools & techniques out in the open, not via private licensed cabal. Security thru obscurity doesn’t work.pic.twitter.com/Sk4gnVALts
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Replying to @k8em0
Someone should make a twitter bot that replies with Hobbs quotes to these threads. I wonder how long it will take them to realize they're debating someone who died a century ago with their fresh takes
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Yikes, Hobbs is a pretty boring, year one level moral philosopher and def would be more boring & mutable as a bot...lol. js
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Uh, you are almost certainly thinking of someone else. The 1853 that Katie mentioned was a reference to Alfred Hobbs, a Victorian locksmith who wrote about vulnerability disclosure. Perhaps you're thinking of Thomas Hobbes?
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Oh, you are right! Maybe he'll be not as boring!?
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I think he's pretty interesting, but the point was that the discussion hasn't changed in 150 years. If we were to change "hackers" to "rogues", he would have understood tweets from yesterday
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The discussion hasn’t changed at all? So the people that discuss the idea of a restricted system are operating on the exact same principles and context that they were the last time it became a big debate?
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I don't think so, what you call a "restricted system" might have been called a "locksmiths guild" 200 years ago or a "sharing club" 20 years ago, other than terms, what has changed?
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Laws have changed. Security industry has broadened. Risk has adapted. There’s new people from other backgrounds and mindsets that might influence the discussion. I’m not okay to operate on a historical basis simply for the sake of it being historical.
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Replying to @uncl3dumby @taviso and
If there’s data to promote that society and specifically security operates the same as it did 20 years ago I’m happy to digest it.
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I don't think anyone is making a legal argument, or proposing new interesting legal interpretations. I think it's the same old "But is there not this danger, that at the same time we shall be giving lessons to the thieves?", no?
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