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Vulnerability researcher at Google. This is a personal stream, opinions expressed are mine.

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    1. Scott Arciszewski‏ @CiPHPerCoder 15 Dec 2019
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      Ah, so you're an optimist? :)

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    2. Matthew Hardeman‏ @mdhardeman 15 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @CiPHPerCoder @taviso and

      No. I’m a pragmatist. As long as there are nations with competing interests, I think the cybersecurity arms race will be well funded on offense and defense.

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    3. Saleem Rashid‏ @saleemrash1d 15 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @mdhardeman @CiPHPerCoder and

      i think that, and then i recall that article about some government officials being hit by a capability that the government themselves had bought

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    4. Matthew Hardeman‏ @mdhardeman 15 Dec 2019
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      So much the better. Those are education cases. They’ll ultimately inform policy and proper risk-balancing. They’ll solidify a risk-reward model for vulnerability banking.

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    5. Saleem Rashid‏ @saleemrash1d 15 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @mdhardeman @CiPHPerCoder and

      well, maybe, but they'll probably just remember to sign exclusive contracts with their broker next time

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    6. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 15 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @saleemrash1d @mdhardeman and

      You agree that two people can find a vulnerability, right? I keep getting the impression that you believe you can control who has access to an exploit, but that isn't the case.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Saleem Rashid‏ @saleemrash1d 15 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @taviso @mdhardeman and

      i don't believe i've said, or even implied, that i think that

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    8. Saleem Rashid‏ @saleemrash1d 15 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @saleemrash1d @taviso and

      Saleem Rashid Retweeted Saleem Rashid

      this is merely to say that they won't learn the lesson they should learn from ithttps://twitter.com/saleemrash1d/status/1206313532737949697 …

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      Saleem Rashid @saleemrash1d
      Replying to @mdhardeman @CiPHPerCoder and 6 others
      well, maybe, but they'll probably just remember to sign exclusive contracts with their broker next time
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    9. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 15 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @saleemrash1d @mdhardeman and

      You're right, I confused something you said with something @rmhrisk said. My mistake.

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    10. Ryan Hurst‏Verified account @rmhrisk 15 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @taviso @saleemrash1d and

      I don’t believe I’ve said anything that suggests only one person can find a vulnerability. I see vulnerabilities like natural law, a thing that will exist no matter what, and that good guys in the name of stoping the bad, and bad guys in the name of profit, will always find.

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      Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 15 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @rmhrisk @saleemrash1d and

      We can make software safer by fixing vulnerabilities, agreed? This is why it's useful to get the gov to stop hoarding them, we can literally take exploits away from people we disapprove of. I get the impression you think reducing western 0day leaves others alone, that's not true.

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        2. daveaitel‏ @daveaitel 15 Dec 2019
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          Replying to @taviso @rmhrisk and

          Strong disagree

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        3. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 15 Dec 2019
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          Replying to @daveaitel @rmhrisk and

          You disagree we can make software safer by fixing vulnerabilities?

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        2. Ryan Hurst‏Verified account @rmhrisk 15 Dec 2019
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          Replying to @taviso @saleemrash1d and

          Yes, fixing vulnerabilities makes software safer. Yes, it would be great if governments and bad guys did not hoard vulnerabilities. Where you and I seem to differ is you seem to believe that there is a way to get those actors not to hoard vulnerabilities ...

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        3. Ryan Hurst‏Verified account @rmhrisk 15 Dec 2019
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          Replying to @rmhrisk @taviso and

          and I think natural law says that they will no mater what and if you managed to find a way to defeat natural law with one country you have the rest of the world to deal with — I see this is an inalienable truth.

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