The best part of the “going dark” debate is that we have to pretend sophisticated attacks by nation-states and criminals are some kind of Gibsonian sci-fi fantasy. It’s 2019. Theres a multi-billion dollar industry around attacking phone security systems.https://www.fastcompany.com/90307864/u-s-fund-sells-israeli-hacking-firm-nso-group-amid-spy-mystery …
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Replying to @matthew_d_green @rmhrisk
As a thought experiment, if you had to choose between a key escrow system accessible to due process (with all the risks you've spelled out) xor eliminating criminal/state access to 0day exploits, which would you choose? (I'm not making a point, just curious about your position).
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it sounds like you don't get a choice about the latter though, so you may as well just say "no" to both
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Right, it's just a thought experiment. It will never happen, but if the USG committed to only using a lawful key escrow system, it might move the 0day market as billions of dollars fall out of it. Maybe that would have some benefits, but the economics seem complicated.
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given a lawful key escrow system, the USG might use it frequently to prove how great an idea it was to give access to encrypted communications to the government; but continue to use 0days when they can't get a warrant or on the criminals that are invulnerable to the escrow
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Of course, and without a lawful key escrow system they'll just do what they do now, plow millions into 0day. The purpose of the experiment is to imagine how it will change things if they committed to not doing that, I think that's interesting
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Replying to @taviso @saleemrash1d and
I know that this is "just" a thought experiment, but you guys know that there hasn't been a law enforcement agency in history that has committed to something they did not want and then kept that commitment, right?
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There's never been a little demon that kicks molecules around, but Maxwell's Demon is still interesting to think about 
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Replying to @taviso @saleemrash1d and
Hah, fair point! Just don't get it confused with how the world works is all I'm saying :)
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