The problem is you are one of the lucky few who only use trustworthy networks. Many people do not have that luxury, like the customers of the ISPs in the article above. Is it your opinion that it just sucks to be them, and we should do nothing?
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Replying to @taviso @Cron2Gert and
See, this is what I don't get about the pro-DoH argument: why do you assume your DoH provider will treat your dns data better than your isp? The two biggest DoH providers (Google and CloudFlare) are already in the advertising business.
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Replying to @JeroenJacobs79 @taviso and
To me, it seems that people believe that a tech giant will threat your dns data better than your isp. I really wish I understood that rationele, because at this point, I just don't. And it feels like I'm missing something obvious here...
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Replying to @JeroenJacobs79 @Cron2Gert and
If you're talking about Mozilla, they have a detailed explanation of how they choose a DoH partner here https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/DOH-resolver-policy …. If you're talking about Chrome, they only upgrade to DoH if you've *already* elected to use a resolver that supports it.
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Replying to @taviso @Cron2Gert and
Is there any information on how the Mozilla Foundation makes sure those requirements are met? Who is doing the audit of potential DoH partners? I like the way Chrome handles it, as it leaves the decision up to the end-user.
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Replying to @JeroenJacobs79 @Cron2Gert and
Your question is how will Mozilla ensure somebody doesn't violate a legally-binding contract? I mean, if "legally" isn't a good enough answer, I don't know what to tell you. That seems better than the agreement you have with the free hotel wifi provider. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/dns-over-https-doh-faqs#w_what-is-the-privacy-policy-for-dns-over-https …
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Replying to @taviso @Cron2Gert and
That's why I set up a OpenVPN tunnel to my home network when I'm on a hotel wifi...
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Replying to @JeroenJacobs79 @Cron2Gert and
Right, and you don't think we should do something for the users who aren't as capable as you?
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Replying to @taviso @Cron2Gert and
*sigh* Did I say we shouldn't? No I did not. But when a browser decides to enable a DoH provider by default, I want to be sure I understand the risks as well. And yes, legally-binding contracts with DoH are good start.
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I didn't say you said that, I asked a question. I'm glad you agree we should be helping users, and that legally-binding contracts are a good start. Sounds like we're on the same page.
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