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Vulnerability researcher at Google. This is a personal stream, opinions expressed are mine.

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    1. DrewDad‏ @tx_drewdad 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @taviso @0xMatt @tojo2000

      Dude, you're the one that put "owner" in quotes... You must have had some reason for doing that, but it makes your meaning ambiguous unless you explain what you meant.

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    2. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @tx_drewdad @0xMatt @tojo2000

      Are you talking to me? I have not put owner in quotes.

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    3. Fourteen macaws in a trenchcoat‏ @0xMatt 10 Oct 2019
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      I think he meant this.pic.twitter.com/0fGrxXhWK4

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    4. Fourteen macaws in a trenchcoat‏ @0xMatt 10 Oct 2019
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      Tavis, I'd love to have coffee or a chat about this topic sometime. It's starting to seem like something that can only result in unfair assumptions if we keep it on Twitter. I assure you, I'm not interested in justifying anyones' bad behavior, and I'm leaving it at that.

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    5. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @0xMatt @tx_drewdad @tojo2000

      Sure, sounds good. The only thing I can think of is you're worried enterprises will lose control of their systems, absolutely not. They're the owners, and that is not complicated.

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    7. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @JaxxAI @0xMatt and

      You either are the owner, or the legal parent/guardian of the owner. Relax, you have permission to change any defaults.

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    9. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @JaxxAI @0xMatt and

      Think about it. You're saying bright kids can *undo* a change to the default, but they're not bright enough to change the default? That doesn't make sense.

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      Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 10 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @JaxxAI @0xMatt and

      You're the owner, or legal parent/guardian of the owner. You absolutely can and should install any monitoring, parental control, etc software that you see fit! That being said, I don't think we should design the defaults for general purpose software around control.

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        2. Andrew Bobulsky‏ @RulerOf 11 Oct 2019
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          Enterprises have been doing endpoint monitoring from the middle of the network for so long that they can’t recognize how perverse it is that it ever worked in the first place. Why are they whining instead of just installing monitoring software on the actual endpoints?

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        3. Fourteen macaws in a trenchcoat‏ @0xMatt 11 Oct 2019
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          In part, because a lot of enterprises allow BYOD (Bring Your Own Device) and can't get good monitoring on those endpoints, and still would like a heads-up if one of those devices is calling out to a known C2. Not saying it's optimal, but it's reality for a lot of orgs.

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