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Vulnerability researcher at Google. This is a personal stream, opinions expressed are mine.

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    1. Richard Bejtlich‏Verified account @taosecurity 11 Jun 2019
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      Richard Bejtlich Retweeted Tavis Ormandy

      Man, this is petty. The Microsoft of 2019 is not the Microsoft of 1999 or even 2009. You don't need to prompt them with this stunt. MS said they would get the patch delivered in the July update because they wanted improved testing. Microsoft is not the problem in this scenario.https://twitter.com/taviso/status/1138469652571467776 …

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      Tavis OrmandyVerified account @taviso
      Today is day 91, so the issue is now public. I consider this relatively low severity, but you could take down an entire Windows fleet relatively easily, so it's worth being aware of. https://bugs.chromium.org/p/project-zero/issues/detail?id=1804 …
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    2. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 11 Jun 2019
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      Those of us actually on the frontlines of vulnerability research deal with something a little different. The Microsoft you're so enamored with didn't just appear, we had to fight for it. What's petty is hurling insults without even putting in some effort to understand context.

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    3. Richard Bejtlich‏Verified account @taosecurity 11 Jun 2019
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      I'm not on the frontlines of vuln research but I care about people who have to deal with the mess you disclosed, needlessly early in my opinion. It's not like Microsoft was ignoring or disrespecting you. Seriously, I expected better from someone who's been around as long as you.

      16 replies 3 retweets 39 likes
      Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 11 Jun 2019
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      Vulnerability disclosure is a vast and nuanced field, that you are clearly not familiar with. Should I start techsplaining your field to you? I know nothing about it, but I can't wait to second guess all the decisions you've made and explain how petty you are. Do better Richard.

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        2. johnny tapia‏ @quorumneeded 11 Jun 2019
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          While I agree with the sentiment of your response to Richard...and don’t begrudge your tone given his, surely you agree that your actions aren’t above review and even criticism, if well articulated and justified.

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        3. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 11 Jun 2019
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          Tavis Ormandy Retweeted Steve Christey Coley

          Of course not, but it is fair to request basic familiarity with the topic before pulling out the insults. There's little new to cover though, so most people familiar with the debate are tired of discussing it. Here's some starter reading,https://twitter.com/SushiDude/status/1137091547604930560 …

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          Steve Christey Coley @SushiDude
          your periodic reminder that if you want to start disclosure fights, you might want to be familiar with some of the history of disclosure fights as documented at https://www.ee.oulu.fi/research/ouspg/Disclosure_tracking … (h/t Ivan Arce)
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        2. Stefano Zanero‏Verified account @raistolo 11 Jun 2019
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          Guys, knowing and respecting both of you makes this exchange difficult to bear. Please, don’t be like this to each other.

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        1. Gil Dabah‏ @_arkon 11 Jun 2019
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          We need people like Tavis in GPZ that changed big vendors to take security more seriously and apply patches within 90 days. I have my own exp with MS and they have too much work on their hands and it becomes a bottleneck. More ppl are needed there, anything else is an excuse.

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        2. Bill E. Ghote‏ @bill_e_ghote 11 Jun 2019
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          Replying to @taviso @taosecurity

          The world of infosec Twitter illustrated succinctly and quite perfectly in just two tweets.

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        3. Brian Kime‏ @BrianPKime 12 Jun 2019
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          Yup. Most of us just want to make the internet safe. Others appoint themselves infosec moral authorities.

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        2. Euan‏ @EuanDBriggs 11 Jun 2019
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          Little wonder it's hard to recruit good people in this field who would want to work with someone with this kind of attitude problem?

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        3. Euan‏ @EuanDBriggs 11 Jun 2019
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          Totally needless arrogance and condescension is a less complicated problem to solve and you should work on it Tavis.

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