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    1. Kelly Shortridge‏ @swagitda_ 11 Dec 2018
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      Kelly Shortridge Retweeted Julian Cohen

      This. Way too many people pretend like they prefer the current vuln disclosure paradigm because its best for users, when really its best for themselves & for the hype machine that makes them money. At least be honest.https://twitter.com/HockeyInJune/status/1072630408448262149 …

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      Julian Cohen @HockeyInJune
      Replying to @vyrus001 @Gillis57 and 2 others
      Actually, that's literally our responsibility. Either you're a security practitioner, building secure systems or securing existing systems, or you're actively working against the industry. You don't get to live in your anarchist cyberpunk fantasy anymore.
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    2. halvarflake‏ @halvarflake 11 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @swagitda_

      The argument "disclosure increases risk" in that thread is a bit ridiculous, though. Embarassment-by-disclosure is currently the only (feeble) incentive against YOLO development that is the *origin* of all that risk.

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      Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 12 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @halvarflake @swagitda_

      I agree with everything you said, but dislike it being characterized as "embarrassment". The purpose is to create an economic incentive to fix bugs. If customers can't direct vendors to fix vulns (b/c don't know they exist), and vendor doesn't care, why spend money to fix?

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        2. Desperado Security‏ @desperado_sec 12 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @haroldsmith3rd @taviso and

          But if the model is "fix after a public disclosure" doesn't that mean "we have outsourced security testing to a stranger acting as an unpaid volunteer rather than hire in-house staff"?

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        2. Daniel Baird‏ @danieljbaird 12 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @taviso @halvarflake @swagitda_

          I'm keen to see a "cyber security" rating similar to these for consumer devices. Give the buying public more leverage over manufacturerspic.twitter.com/JqbsvcL2pC

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        3. Daniel Baird‏ @danieljbaird 12 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @danieljbaird @taviso @halvarflake

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