Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. The ASD E8 has a nice progression of whitelisting/macro restrictions: https://acsc.gov.au/publications/protect/essential-eight-maturity-model.htm …
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Twitter, innit. Your position is more nuanced than your average tweet suggests too - it's a terrible platform to use for debates really. I deliberately didn't tag you in that flowchart as it was a throw away, I was game streaming when my phone started buzzing and thought 'oh god'
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Yeah, although I wish you had made it clearer you were talking about not transitioning away from antivirus without a plan, because lots of people read it as "antivirus makes you secure".

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Great point, tho I wonder if we as a community can find a way to make the transition easier for everyone besides having them buy expensive solutions...
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This is what most orgs aren't capable of, people and processes, and creating baseline core images with acceptable applications. I've seen it at my last 2 orgs, they allow a multitude of similar apps and don't manage.
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