I'll patch you into the next call I get to help clean a MacOS malware infestation.
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Replying to @ryanaraine @taviso and
AV cant stop everything, obviously. Neither do vaccines. Bad example. They fail quite often, but work through herd immunity. Also, Look at the annual flu shot - various levels of effectiveness year to year. So, like vaccines, while not perfect AV can and does stop a lot of crud
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Replying to @georgevhulme @ryanaraine and
But malware isn’t the flu. You don’t just “get malware” by browsing the web, like you get the flu by taking an airplane.
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Replying to @aionescu @georgevhulme and
Yes you do. That's what EKs are for.
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Replying to @MFMokbel @georgevhulme and
In over 20 years of browsing the Internet I’ve never seen an EK do more than drop a file on disk and try to get me to execute it.
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Replying to @aionescu @georgevhulme and
That's your experience. That's not what's happening in large organizations. Ask any experienced IR person, and they'll tell you stories.
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Replying to @MFMokbel @georgevhulme and
Not sure how to respond to that (do some homework). The topic, by the way, was mom and pop, not large organizations.
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Replying to @aionescu @georgevhulme and
Ok. To reflect on that, ask any CERT that works with local communities, small businesses, and they'll tell you stories.
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Replying to @MFMokbel @georgevhulme and
Right — I’m not claiming all users are immune to infection! It was said malware is like the “flu”. It isn’t. My local CERT will have a dozen stories, nowhere near the prevalence of flu. Some home users will always be exploited. “AV” won’t help. Backups would help more.
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Guess in your 20 years of web browser if you never encountered self propagating malware, like a worm. Anyhow, the flu was brought up to point out vaccines aren’t 100 percent effective, after vaccines were brought up. Not as a corollary to _all_ forms of malware.
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Alex knows how malware works.
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Well, he went back 20 years and said one can’t get infected just by being attached to the Internet. That’s objectively false.
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Replying to @georgevhulme @taviso and
I can see why my tweet appeared like an extreme generalization. It does happen, but nowhere near the commonality of any virus we normally vaccinate people for. That’s what I was trying to say — just like most people don’t have a Yellow Fever vaccine living in NYC.
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