AVs are not about helping users making decisions. AVs are sold as tools to forget about the security of your computer, "the tool does it for you".
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Replying to @matalaz @MarcoErmini and
I don't care what they're sold as. Lots of AV marketing has been poor and that's not been very helpful. I do care what it does in practice.
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Replying to @martijn_grooten @MarcoErmini and
I do care a lot about how are them sold, as AV marketing campaigns have always been a damn cancer for information security.
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Replying to @matalaz @MarcoErmini and
Sure, but that's an entirely separate discussion.
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Replying to @matalaz @MarcoErmini and
Yes. We're talking about whether average home users on most OS's should use AV for what it does in practice. Not whether implicit or explicit marketing claims are correct.
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Replying to @martijn_grooten @matalaz and
You can't do that Martijn. When you tell users "keep paying us and you can click whatever you like" you've made the problem worse. A (wise) cynic might say you're exacerbating the problem because you're scared the revenue stream might dry up.
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Replying to @taviso @martijn_grooten and
Throwing my hat into this dumpster fire. AV is akin to the seat belt on a modern car, and supplemented by ABS, side impact airbags, radar assist, etc. AV by itself is a first line of defense now. On the Windows side, Defender alone is better than no AV. BTW, I don't work for MS.
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Replying to @munghost @martijn_grooten and
Look, homeopathy is like seat belts on a modern car. Homeopathy is a first line of defense, it's better than no medicine at all.
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Is it? Actually, let's not bring an argument about homeopathy into this : )
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I replaced the word "antivirus" with "homeopathy" and repeated his tweet back to him. It's common for antivirus industry to want to compare their products with real security products, like helmets and seat belts. In reality, it's more like homeopathy and crystals.
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