IIUC the constraints are: 1. If you disclose a bad photo to Facebook, after some review delay no-one else should be able to upload it. It's not ok to have it uploadable and taken down later after a time delay. (Without this, people could post revenge porn.)
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Replying to @katrielalex @mullender and
2. If you disclose a non-bad photo to Facebook, after some review delay no-one else should be prevented from uploading it. It's not ok to have it blocked and post-able after a time delay. (Without this, governments could find photos they don't like and add a review time lag.)
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Replying to @katrielalex @mullender and
Or is it the case that 2 already doesn't hold for Facebook right now, but that isn't a problem?
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You are concerned that governments will have access to a sensitive photo, then block people from uploading that photo for a few hours by lying and claiming they are abuse victims. This very unlikely scenario (as pointed out, how will they have it first?) Is pretty minor attack.
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Replying to @taviso @katrielalex and
I think that isn't going to happen, it's a tiny temp delay for a lot of lies and abusing a program for helping victims. Even if it you disagree, the alternative is mail humans your nudes for review, and allow them to be posted while the human verifies your claims.
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For the revenge porn situation the photo has either been uploaded already or not. If not and a victim registers a hash through a channel, then any future uploaded photos matching the hash will get delayed and reviewed.
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Replying to @mullender @taviso and
If the photo was already uploaded, the hash would locate it, and it can be reviewed and deleted right then. In neither case the victim has to upload their photos. (in this different hypothetical solution)
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Replying to @mullender @taviso and
But to be clear, I love the current solution too. Where a victim advocate can aid in registering the hashes, but reviews the actual photos. It sure beats having your family and friends see those photos. This is a huge step forward from what was possible before.
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True, but it only works because victims are desperate and willing to accept the trade-off. The option is a step forward, but for a modest engineering investment we can make it trade-off free!
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Until someone writes a hashing tool that steals the photos.. it is a sad world :( The trade-off is similar to undressing for an examination, not fun, but easier with a stranger.
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That's true either way though, someone can phish for photos claiming to be facebook. Nobody has a solution for social engineering, neither proposal changes that.
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