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    Paul Haddad ‏@tapbot_paul 9 Jan 2015

    Serious ?. For developers that jumped head long into Swift how much time have you saved coding vs lost fighting with tools, learning, bugs?

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    • Valentin Knabel Raul Rea Ben Hall Swift London Jon Parise Chris Clark Rodrigo S. Andrade  H. Cem ÖZTÜRK Yaron Karasik
    10:51 AM - 9 Jan 2015
    Flower Mound, TX
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      1. Spooky Streza ‏@SteveStreza 9 Jan 2015 Civic Center, San Francisco

        @tapbot_paul Swift is about 5-10x slower. Client is insisting on it.

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      3. Paul Haddad ‏@tapbot_paul 9 Jan 2015

        @SteveStreza why? Tools, bugs, you/learning?

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      4. Spooky Streza ‏@SteveStreza 9 Jan 2015 Civic Center, San Francisco

        @tapbot_paul In an 8 hour day SourceKitService crashes for me about 300-400 times. Which means no autocomplete or type info in Xcode.

        0 replies 2 retweets 6 likes
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      6. Spooky Streza ‏@SteveStreza 9 Jan 2015 Civic Center, San Francisco

        @tapbot_paul So you’re constantly referencing docs in Dash/Google/etc to dig up the types you need to figure out how to use/cast them.

        0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      7. Spooky Streza ‏@SteveStreza 9 Jan 2015 Civic Center, San Francisco

        @tapbot_paul There are plenty of compiler bugs too that just make no sense. I've lost at least a full day just trying to work around them.

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      1. Steve T-S ‏@stroughtonsmith 9 Jan 2015

        @tapbot_paul I went back to ObjC/C for anything even slightly complex, just to be productive. Swift is a significant time sink right now

        0 replies 7 retweets 10 likes
      2. Karl Adam ‏@thekarladam 9 Jan 2015

        @stroughtonsmith @tapbot_paul Define "complex" here

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      3. Steve T-S ‏@stroughtonsmith 9 Jan 2015

        @thekarladam @tapbot_paul anything beyond talking to basic ObjC code & frameworks

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      1. Zenfar ‏@RealZenfar 9 Jan 2015

        If u jump into any new language isn't that always the case? True even for new APIs sometimes on any platform @tapbot_paul @stroughtonsmith

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      2. Steve T-S ‏@stroughtonsmith 9 Jan 2015

        @RealZenfar @tapbot_paul of course. But with most, every IDE update doesn't also break all your code with dumb copy/pasteable fixes

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      1. Michael Koziarski ‏@nzkoz 9 Jan 2015

        @tapbot_paul it radically simplified some of the more ‘algorithmy’ code in bits of the apps, but ~every build error is indecipherable

        0 replies 4 retweets 7 likes
      2. David Owens II ‏@owensd 9 Jan 2015

        .@nzkoz @tapbot_paul I wasn't saving time or being more productive, so I stopped using it. Bad performance and bad tools cost me too much.

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      1. Patrick Perini ‏@pcperini 9 Jan 2015 Pittsburgh, PA

        @tapbot_paul For ground-up projects, it’s a breeze. 10x dev speed. Impractical to integrate into existing projects tho.

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      1. Phillip Kast ‏@yeahphil 9 Jan 2015

        @tapbot_paul slower for everyone I know. But people are adopting to be ahead when it's no longer a choice, not to save effort now.

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      2. Joseph Lord ‏@jl_hfl 12 Jan 2015

        @yeahphil @SwiftLDN @tapbot_paul I can go much faster and safer now. Spent quite a lot of time playing with Swift though.

        0 replies 2 retweets 0 likes
      3. Al Skipp ‏@al_skipp 13 Jan 2015

        @jl_hfl @SwiftLDN @tapbot_paul Swift has ruined my productivity. It's sent me down a Haskell rabbit warren. Destination: Earth's core 🐰 ; )

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      1. Lluis Gerard ‏@lluisgerard 9 Jan 2015 Mataró, Spain

        @tapbot_paul I’m very used to it and can code fast. The main problem for me is compiling time when your app grows (fix: build frameworks)

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