Ta-Nehisi Coates
Undercurrent of this great piece by @jbouie is how white supremacy, necessarily, corrodes and destroys public life.
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@tanehisicoates@jbouie non-whites instead of themselves. They always saw it as a zero-sum game. Gain for blacks was loss for whites. (2/2)
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Kevin M. Kruse
Kinda true though. End of white supremacy is, effectively, the destruction of white identity. @KevinMKruse @jbouie
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@tanehisicoates@KevinMKruse@jbouie Entirely appropriate, as white identity has always been predicated on white supremacy to begin with. - View other replies
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@leonardpierce@tanehisicoates@KevinMKruse@jbouie Is black identity predicated on black inferiority and/or white supremacy? -
@Dynamite_76@leonardpierce@KevinMKruse@jbouie "Black racial identity" (not black ETHNIC identity) is necessarily tied to white supremacy. - View other replies
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@tanehisicoates@leonardpierce@KevinMKruse@jbouie I've not heard/seen that distinction made before. Please define the difference. - View other replies
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@Dynamite_76@leonardpierce@KevinMKruse@jbouie more examplar than example. -
@tanehisicoates@leonardpierce@KevinMKruse@jbouie I have to confess your answer has left me more confused rather than less. -
@tanehisicoates@leonardpierce@KevinMKruse@jbouie Marvin Gaye is ethnically black but not racially black? I don't get it. - View other replies
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@Dynamite_76@leonardpierce@KevinMKruse@jbouie Notions of ethnicity--sometimes yes, sometimes no. Not necessary. - Show more
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@tanehisicoates@KevinMKruse@jbouie I'm not sure about that. There r diff ways of being 'white'-way beyond the nazi mainstream#workingonit - View other replies
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@jborocz@KevinMKruse@jbouie I know of no other. Certainly IDs within--but none of them are "racially exclusive." - View other replies
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@tanehisicoates@jborocz@KevinMKruse@jbouie Do you mean that "Polish" is very different from "white", because it's distant from "Irish"? - View other replies
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@tanehisicoates@mmcasetti@jborocz@jbouie Legal struggles over who counted as "white" in the 1920s are instructive. In Ozawa (1922) (1/3) -
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@KevinMKruse@tanehisicoates@mmcasetti@jborocz@jbouie "Black Irish", "Lace Curtain Irish" "White Russians" "Sephardic Jews". - View other replies
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@bijancbayne@KevinMKruse@mmcasetti@jborocz@jbouie They aren't just talking about the political system, talking about culture.
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@tanehisicoates As a white guy, I don't see it as a "destruction," of my identity. I just seeing it as time to grow up. -
@LuckyBestWash It is though. You'd have other identities, but being a member of the "white race" has no meaning beyond white supremacy. - View other replies
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@tanehisicoates ...clung to "white American," as sole identity. -
@LuckyBestWash Yup. And no reason that ethinc ID (German, Dutch etc.) has to be racially exclusive.
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