I forget how the quote goes and can't find it. Something about freedom being highest/most valuable amidst tyranny. I am botching the quote.
Very true. I have given up finding the quote, but I always considered Socrates as Plato's martyr at the hands of Greek democracy, biased? 
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I always liked what I could find of Diogenes, but most of his works were lost.
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Yes, that is true. The Cynics of old aren't quite the rampant cynicism one would find today. Much less resigned and defeatist.
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