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    1. Alexis Kennedy  🕯‏Verified account @alexiskennedy 19 Jun 2019

      Alexis Kennedy  🕯 Retweeted 'ACAB' Eniko

      'everyone can learn to make games' is a *great* message. Some people mishear it as 'everyone can make making games their day job'. That can be a trap. Compare 'anyone can learn to draw' 'anyone can learn to play guitar'https://twitter.com/Enichan/status/1141240279065866240 …

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      'ACAB' Eniko @Enichan
      Like, I'm sorry if my feed is too much cold hard reality but the fact of the matter is that the vast majority of people who try to make it in indie dev fail and I'm pushing back against the narrative that if you just care enough and remortgage your house you'll succeed
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    2. Josh Ling @ Adopt Me!‏ @tactful 19 Jun 2019
      Replying to @alexiskennedy

      100%. And it's hard telling this to some people in the same way it's a hard truth for the 1000s of actors and writers who move to LA trying to make it, of which most of them will never It's hard to reconcile trying to be positive and inclusive whilst being realistic + logical

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    3. Josh Ling @ Adopt Me!‏ @tactful 19 Jun 2019
      Replying to @tactful @alexiskennedy

      It's particularly hard for stuff like gamedev and also digital art, music, and content creation (videos / streams) be wise anyone can start doing these in their own homes, there's fewer barriers to entry, so more people are like "I can try to do this as a career"

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    4. Alexis Kennedy  🕯‏Verified account @alexiskennedy 19 Jun 2019
      Replying to @tactful

      exactly this. The bedroom coders of the 80s set an expectation that making a game in your spare time could make you rich. I've met plenty of teenagers who think they'll have a music career but I don't think it looks as intuitively plausible, cos guitars predate the music industry

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      Josh Ling @ Adopt Me!‏ @tactful 19 Jun 2019
      Replying to @alexiskennedy

      Yeah, I'd say the expectation was also reinforced by the burst of solo indies in the mid 2000s too, and recent high profile successes (e.g Stardew). In a sense, most know it's incredibly unlikely, yet everyone still secretly thinks / hopes that their game will be the exception

      4:37 AM - 19 Jun 2019
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        2. rahaeli‏ @rahaeli 21 Jun 2019
          Replying to @tactful @alexiskennedy

          Especially since IIRC Stardew was a success after the creator had spent like five years living on the income of his very patient partner, right? Nobody ever puts "find partner with well paying job" on their business plan!

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        3. rahaeli‏ @rahaeli 21 Jun 2019
          Replying to @rahaeli @tactful @alexiskennedy

          (I will disclaim that "rely on partners with well paying jobs" has explicitly been part of Dreamwidth's plan at several points in our ten years, heh)

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