What appears to be another solid alternative is benatars assymetry as a starting point if you want to defend the universality of a claim from a point of claiming that things can be "good" for the unborn. This has a lot of downsides that #namethewellbeing does not have.
I have arguments that go into metaphysics, ones that grant whatever the others metaphysics is, and ones that throw out metaphysics. It all comes & goes at the interlocutors behest. They still arrive at p & not p &/or absurd. Again. #welcometomakingthepoints #antinatalism
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