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Historian of, and advocate for, American student activism. CUNY prof.

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    1. Angus Johnston‏Verified account @studentactivism 15 May 2020

      Angus Johnston Retweeted Nate Silver

      This kind of framing is so infuriating. The evidence for immunity IS iffy, because the underlying scientific question hasn't been resolved yet. It's not contrarianism or virtue-signaling or hoping for bad news to say we don't know when we don't, in fact, know.https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1261295353401413632 …

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      Nate SilverVerified account @NateSilver538
      A lot of high-information news consumers seem to think the evidence for immunity to COVID is iffy, but while there are uncertainties the actual news has been pretty good as research has evolved. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/t-cells-found-covid-19-patients-bode-well-long-term-immunity …
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    2. Angus Johnston‏Verified account @studentactivism 15 May 2020

      And if a crucial scientific question hasn't yet been resolved, it's crucial that we act in a way that's consistent with the possibility that the answer won't be the one we're hoping for. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst is what we HAVE to do.

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    3. Angus Johnston‏Verified account @studentactivism 15 May 2020

      I was having this conversation with Mel the other day, working through the knowns and unknowns of a possible visit to see my parents upstate sometime this summer. I'd LOVE to do that—get out of the city, be outside with the kids, sit around a campfire with my folks. I'd love it.

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    4. Angus Johnston‏Verified account @studentactivism 15 May 2020

      And based on what we've been doing to protect ourselves, and what's known about transmission of the virus, I think we could probably do it safely. But "probably" isn't good enough for the risk of killing my parents. So we're sitting tight until we have more data.

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    5. Angus Johnston‏Verified account @studentactivism 15 May 2020

      And this is where so many of us are right now: Thinking that X is probably safe, but that the possibility that it's not is too high to risk. That's prudent behavior.

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    6. Angus Johnston‏Verified account @studentactivism 15 May 2020

      And it's an approach that doesn't just protect ourselves, but also lowers the risk for people who HAVE to take those risks. Me staying at home makes the sidewalks less crowded. Me staying out of the supermarket makes going to the supermarket safer for those who have no choice.

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    7. Angus Johnston‏Verified account @studentactivism 15 May 2020

      Having a fruitful discussion in replies, by the way, with an immunologist who believes that the data on post-infection immunity from SARS1 and MERS gives us reason to be very optimistic about COVID-19. That's heartening to hear.

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    8. Angus Johnston‏Verified account @studentactivism 15 May 2020

      But there's a diversity of opinion from experts on the question of HOW optimistic we should be, with plenty of folks—as below—arguing that while the evidence points in a positive direction, some crucial questions remain unanswered.https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2766097 …

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    9. Angus Johnston‏Verified account @studentactivism 15 May 2020

      And as always, there's a danger in translating scientific conclusions into advice for individuals regarding personal behavior.

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      Angus Johnston‏Verified account @studentactivism 15 May 2020

      In the US today, there are millions, maybe tens of millions of people walking around who think they've already had the virus. Many of them are correct. Many of them are mistaken. Most of them haven't been tested.

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        2. Angus Johnston‏Verified account @studentactivism 15 May 2020

          So public consumption messaging around post-infection immunity has to be qualified for that reason as well, since if you tell people they're 100% safe after they've been infected, a lot of people who haven't actually had the virus are going to conclude they're in the clear.

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        3. Angus Johnston‏Verified account @studentactivism 15 May 2020

          It's a really hard question—how to convey information to the public in such a way as to prioritize accuracy and transparency while minimizing the chances of misuse of the data. There isn't an easy answer.

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        4. Angus Johnston‏Verified account @studentactivism 15 May 2020

          It's not inappropriate for Silver to highlight the fact that the evidence of post-infection immunity seems to be trending in a positive direction. But his "a lot of high-information news consumers seem to think the evidence for immunity to COVID is iffy, but" isn't useful.

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        5. Angus Johnston‏Verified account @studentactivism 15 May 2020

          Particularly since the very next clause in the tweet, "there are uncertainties," underscores the fact that many scholars believe the evidentiary question HASN'T been conclusively resolved.

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        6. Angus Johnston‏Verified account @studentactivism 15 May 2020

          I suspect Silver would say that "iffy" implies more radical doubt than "uncertainty," and yeah, as a copyeditor, sure. They're distinct. Fine. But both are mushy terms, and contraposing them like this is demanding a LOT of work from that distinction.

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        7. Angus Johnston‏Verified account @studentactivism 15 May 2020

          Silver has made a lot of hay over the years dunking on conventional wisdom, and he's been right more than he's been wrong. But that kind of dunking has specific consequences when you're tweeting about the public response to a global pandemic.

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        2. Kari Dru‏ @KariDru 15 May 2020
          Replying to @studentactivism

          I'm as certain as I can be without a test. (Feb 25) We had positive cases 45 miles to either side of me, I had three plausible places I could have got it, and my symptoms were absolutely textbook. But they don't HAVE the tests. I tried to report my likely case to no avail.

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        3. Kari Dru‏ @KariDru 15 May 2020
          Replying to @KariDru @studentactivism

          How can we trust anything when that's how it's being handled? I have to assume that if my situation is common that I may have had it, the world may never know, and there are likely more. I don't think this makes ME safe, I think this makes US unsafe.

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