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vanilla js vs framework (yeah, I’m going there): y’all make good points on both sides but I see you missing one in particular.
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And also, there are some wheels that need reinventing too. ;)
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More seriously, we need to take a step back and break the deadlock between developer experience & user experience. Why are they at odds with each other? (Perf: file size transferred and memory footprint.) Ok, so how do we make that not a thing?
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Could we have conventions without the framework? Could we find a way not to request the framework as frequently? Could good Dev experience compile to good user experience? What would we need to look at to make it 100x better than it is? Go big.
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@dan_abramov makes a very good point about the false dichotomy given everything a framework can do for perf...https://twitter.com/dan_abramov/status/979380818664677376?s=21 …Show this thread -
And who did I mean when I said “we”?https://twitter.com/stubbornella/status/979380955608526848?s=21 …
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Oh yeah, when I say “we” I mean the whole ecosystem. Browser vendors, developers, framework authors... 100x improvement needs all hands on deck.
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I'm a vanilla JS person myself, but if you ask about perf, a big advantage of frameworks served from a CDN is that multiple sites can link to the same framework URL increasing the likelihood of a cache hit, but not sure how that plays with privacy when cache-digest is supported.
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Most bigcos won’t do that for security reasons... maybe if they were browser provided instead? I mean, why send it over the wire at all, bake it in? If it could be verified
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Hi, Nicole. I'm a UX specialist w/a 2-day workshop (aimed at non-UX roles) that answers your questions. I know why they are at odds, I experienced it at many companies, & I'm working hard (through my training) to make that not a thing. Let's talk!
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It took me a while, but as soon as I saw this tweet I wanted to dive into the concept. That deep dive turned into this article. Thanks so much for an inspirational, thought-provoking thread!https://alistapart.com/article/breaking-the-deadlock-between-user-experience-and-developer-experience …
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