While studying in Cambridge, I once gave a conference talk. A giant in my field was in attendance and gave me nice input. 1/Nhttps://twitter.com/dclingi/status/1085645130839687172 …
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Thanks for sharing this illuminating story. One silver lining of these incidents is that they help us
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We *all* have biases, myself included. To check mine, I sometimes do an experiment in my head, "If this person were [change identity label], what do I think?" Your story is an excellent experiment played out in reality.
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Did you tell him
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This is a great lesson from a case study. Sociologically speaking, a scientist is a venue where the sum of his/her capitals, including affiliations, reputation, grants, is invested in research output. Actually, you were *not* the same person, i.e. intersection point in a grid.
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#Bourdieu crossed with David#Lodge.https://twitter.com/straightedge/status/1085868066645336064?s=19 …
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This is also how it is in England where we have an increasingly hierarchical university system. The institution you're at affects your chances of getting funding and so becomes a self reinforcing system.
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Wow! That’s crazy!
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If I'm being positive, at least they remembered your work. This makes me wonder about the pros/cons of affiliation: on one hand, it makes it easier for people to find you. On the other hand, it can obscure you behind institutional prestige.
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PS credit to you for realising this
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As a rule of thumb: (*value* of intellectual contribution) = (intellectual contribution)/ (distance from well-connected, white, tall, deep-voiced male).
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I had very similar experiences after moving from cal poly to uc davis. I was the SAME person! Not quite that stark though
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wish you could name and shame
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I mean, I SUSPECT at conferences (some) people look at my name tag/affiliation and judge, but rarely do we get tangible proof...
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Well actually they don’t matter. What matters is exposing the unfounded and unfair bias in the “highly respected educated person”, which may also be tainting their other work. If I’d be an employer I’d like to know!
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Thanks for sharing that natural experiment. I'm shocked that anyone is shocked. Maybe it's just too easy to recognize the privileges we're denied; while our default position on the privileges we enjoy is that they have been earned.
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Interesting data point. I wouldn’t overstate the organizational role though... the first time the talk made an impression. Hearing the same idea from a “second person” is less impressive, regardless of org. I suspect that played a much bigger role than institution IMHO.
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