They campaigned on "leveling the playing field". This is not that.
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Replying to @mtnbvan @WestcoastWood and
College students are likely less to insure than a wider population of the same age - in general, you wouldn’t have chronic health conditions pulling the avg cost up. It’s a relevant point if one argues ‘intl studs are costing X, and that means not doing unfunded Y.’
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But again, I’m not debating the main point, just wanting to see good arguments used.
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$225M worth of reasons. Even if they use it 1X a year that's subsidy that is not spent elsewhere on Canadians, services & housing. Disabled & low income persons have been waiting what, 16 years for an increase in income assistance? But in'tl students get a subsidy just like that?
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Replying to @mtnbvan @WestcoastWood and
Sure. I haven’t opposed the principle you folks are arguing, I’m just curious what the real cost is. I looked up an answer: It looks like $625/yr on a private insurance plan. http://uhip.ca/About
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Replying to @YVR_P @WestcoastWood and
Now, look at income assistance levels in BC & also note shelter allowances. Fair? https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/governments/policies-for-government/bcea-policy-and-procedure-manual/bc-employment-and-assistance-rate-tables/income-assistance-rate-table …
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Know you're not arguing on the principle. Just presenting what's so egregious to me.
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Replying to @mtnbvan @WestcoastWood and
I agree - we say ‘no’ to so many worthy needs in our society that we have to be very careful about when saying yes to things like this. It’s not at all clear that the $625/yr discount we are offering has a net positive ROI to government and to society.
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Incidentally, we do have data on how price shocks impact demand. In the last 15yrs, SFU and UBC moved from subsidizing intl ugrads to charging full cost recovery, including capital costs. Demand didn’t go down, despite hefty spikes in tuition for international students.
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So if demand didn't go down despite tuition increases, why the heck are we paying their medical premiums? We pay fees on a variety of procedures - circumcisions, diabetes testing, prescriptions, but the @bcndp has $ to cover free msp to intl students? Makes no sense.
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Replying to @stevestonnotri1 @mtnbvan and
Hopefully it was an oversight in the hanger to remove MSP and they make a move to change it.
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Replying to @YVR_P @stevestonnotri1 and
I’m sure Hanger is not what I typed.
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