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    1. steveklabnik‏ @steveklabnik 19 Aug 2012
      Replying to @arsduo

      @arsduo @agnoster and if you read about arguments capitalists made at the time, they said the 12 hour day would ruin everything!

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    2. Alex Koppel‏ @arsduo 19 Aug 2012
      Replying to @steveklabnik

      @steveklabnik @agnoster until recently that was actually an accepted fact in business circles (I can dig up the reference if you want).

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. steveklabnik‏ @steveklabnik 19 Aug 2012
      Replying to @arsduo

      @arsduo @agnoster I would like to see one, if you have the time. I would consider that historical revisionism.

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    4. Alex Koppel‏ @arsduo 19 Aug 2012
      Replying to @steveklabnik

      @steveklabnik @agnoster I fully admit that it wasn't solely or primarily for the worker's human benefits, but rather more real productivity.

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    5. steveklabnik‏ @steveklabnik 19 Aug 2012
      Replying to @arsduo

      @arsduo @agnoster yeah I’ll read this, but I don’t think that I’d trust it.

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    6. Alex Koppel‏ @arsduo 19 Aug 2012
      Replying to @steveklabnik

      @steveklabnik @agnoster let me know what you think when you read them. There's no obvious source for bias. (Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_ford#Labor_philosophy ….)

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    7. steveklabnik‏ @steveklabnik 19 Aug 2012
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      @arsduo @agnoster the obvious source is ‘my workers won’t seize my means of production because i’m nice to them’

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    8. Alex Koppel‏ @arsduo 19 Aug 2012
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      @steveklabnik @agnoster yeah, I won't pretend this was for humanitarian grounds, just that sometimes interests align & things aren't b&w.

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    9. steveklabnik‏ @steveklabnik 19 Aug 2012
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      @arsduo @agnoster the interests aren’t aligned, they’re opposed

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    10. Alex Koppel‏ @arsduo 19 Aug 2012
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      @steveklabnik @agnoster you can get a lot, not everything but a lot, by changing frames of reference.

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      steveklabnik‏ @steveklabnik 19 Aug 2012
      Replying to @arsduo

      @arsduo @agnoster it’s about buying them off. placating them to keep them from truly liberating themselves. Still antagonistic.

      3:22 AM - 19 Aug 2012
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        2. Isaac Wolkerstorfer‏ @agnoster 19 Aug 2012
          Replying to @steveklabnik

          @steveklabnik @arsduo It's *possible* to create a corporation with interests aligned with the workers, see (I think) Github or Valve.

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        3. steveklabnik‏ @steveklabnik 19 Aug 2012
          Replying to @agnoster

          @agnoster @arsduo only partially. Gaben and the GH founders still reap a disproportionately large part of the benefit

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        2. Isaac Wolkerstorfer‏ @agnoster 19 Aug 2012
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          @steveklabnik @arsduo Also a fun read in that vein: A political economist at Valve analyzes post-capitalist firms http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/economics/why-valve-or-what-do-we-need-corporations-for-and-how-does-valves-management-structure-fit-into-todays-corporate-world/ …

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        3. steveklabnik‏ @steveklabnik 19 Aug 2012
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          @agnoster @arsduo yeah that post is pretty good

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