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    Darren L Dahly‏ @statsepi Jun 28

    gumble grumble grumble - the review I wanted to write (new post).https://medium.com/@darren_dahly/the-review-i-wanted-to-write-ca21e6abc1b9?postPublishedType=repub …

    11:35 AM - 28 Jun 2019
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      1. Darren L Dahly‏ @statsepi Jun 29

        I'm very disappointed that this seems to be resonating with people...

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      2. J.P. de Ruiter‏ @JPdeRuiter Jun 29
        Replying to @statsepi

        What would be wrong with just writing in the review the recommendation that the famous stars on the paper assist the ECR in making it a paper meeting at least acceptable standards? (And a few examples of why you say that)?

        3 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      3. Darren L Dahly‏ @statsepi Jun 29
        Replying to @JPdeRuiter

        I don't disagree, but it doesn't save the me the irritation over having to write the review in the first place.

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      4. J.P. de Ruiter‏ @JPdeRuiter Jun 29
        Replying to @statsepi

        Well, what I suggested is a lot less work, right?

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      5. Darren L Dahly‏ @statsepi Jun 29
        Replying to @JPdeRuiter

        If that's the only thing I write, then I think it's disregarded 100% (though its possibly disregarded anyway)..so it feels like a choice to do a proper review or to just skip it altogether. I think :)

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      6. J.P. de Ruiter‏ @JPdeRuiter Jun 29
        Replying to @statsepi

        Well, if you provide a few blatant reasons that are sufficient for you to reject... When I'm reviewing I don't see myself as being a free expert proofreader for lazy authors.

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      7. J.P. de Ruiter‏ @JPdeRuiter Jun 29
        Replying to @JPdeRuiter @statsepi

        So as you put it, grumble grumble! :-)

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      2. James Rooney‏ @jpkrooney Jun 29
        Replying to @statsepi

        I’ve reviewed papers where sections clearly written by different authors & thrown together clearly without a senior author reading over -leaving disjointed sections making review job hard. Authors don’t do this - have one author fully read the final version!

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      3. Michele Rajput‏ @dsmyxe 11h11 hours ago
        Replying to @jpkrooney @statsepi

        Or all of the authors.

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      4. Darren L Dahly‏ @statsepi 3h3 hours ago
        Replying to @dsmyxe @jpkrooney

        Gasp!

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      2. Richard Shaw‏ @rickwahs Jun 29
        Replying to @statsepi

        Would senior academics let papers be submitted in a terrible state if they were publicly available on pre-print severs? Reviewers are there to protect the reputation of science not selfish professors who just game the system with little thought to the consequences.

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      3. george davey smith‏ @mendel_random Jun 29
        Replying to @rickwahs @statsepi

        Absolutely, pre-print servers should become the norm /mandatory. Some of the best peer review I’ve had in the last few years have been comments (posted on @biorxivpreprint tweeted, emailed or verbal) on preprints, which made the papers less terrible ...

        1 reply 11 retweets 32 likes
      4. onisillos sekkides  🦠‏ @onisillos Jun 29
        Replying to @mendel_random @rickwahs and

        I’m curious, why would preprints generate better comments?

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      5. Maarten van Smeden‏ @MaartenvSmeden Jun 29
        Replying to @onisillos @mendel_random and

        The preprint reviewers read the paper that had their interest, not because someone asked them to review it? If I’m honest, very few of the papers I’m invited to review are papers I would read based on their title/abstract

        1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
      6. Maarten van Smeden‏ @MaartenvSmeden Jun 29
        Replying to @MaartenvSmeden @onisillos and

        So given that I’m truly interested in reading the preprint I guess the motivation for thorough feedback and possibly the quality of my review may go up a bit

        0 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
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      1. Bill Petersen‏ @billpetersen17 Jun 29
        Replying to @statsepi

        "But published it will be. It will be added to the heaping pile of garbage that pollutes the scientific record, making it harder and harder for us to find the nuggets of knowledge." - Beautiful! thankyouthankyouthankyou

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      1. Harry Crane‏ @HarryDCrane Jun 29
        Replying to @statsepi

        "How do world class experts manage to submit such a terrible paper?" Because they aren't really "world class experts"

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      1. mike johansen‏ @mikejohansenmd Jun 29
        Replying to @statsepi

        If the reviewer spent more time on the paper than an author, we might have an issue.

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      1. Jason Gantenberg‏ @EvilMammoth Jun 28
        Replying to @statsepi

        "So many papers that no human can possibly be paying very much attention to any of it." Exactly.

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      1. ESMD‏ @ESMDcan123 Jun 29
        Replying to @statsepi

        Great piece. Also reflects what a lot of end-users of research feel (e.g., MDs). So frustrating to see 1) the hugely damaging effect of hyped but terrible papers on patients; and 2) the amount of money wasted on unanswerable questions or questions irrelevant to patient care.

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