It's surprising to me that people think "every belief should be possible to say out loud" is killing freedom of expression and experimentation, and not, say, a lack of housing that undermines the viability of artist communities.
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Prevalent artist communities and reasonably available housing were at least correlated with a flourishing of interesting new ideas in tech.
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Startups' recent growth did NOT occur during a period where "I can express any belief I'd like, no matter how odious" was true. (Has it ever been? Is there any period of creativity and economic growth that can be pinned to that condition?)
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I think the phenomenon
@sama was talking about, was really more about SF culture turning very ugly. You have the displaced artists pitted against tech people, and the anger that often expresses itself via PC culture. Wasn't the case when techies + artists were friends. -
Compared to then, which I remain pretty convinced was quietly driven by cheaply available space, experimental culture, and the frivolous or toy-like nature of tech at the time, there aren't really artists in the Bay Area anymore
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I meant they are pitted against tech to compete for housing, but ok.
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Yes — this feels somewhat bygone. I'm not really aware of any long-standing artist communities still able to make it in SF or really still in serious competition for housing.
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And certainly not compared to ~2007 SF.
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Essentially the point of
@stewartbrand How Buildings Learn “The Low Road”https://youtu.be/09pekAKuXjc
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The US did pretty well after adopting the First Amendment versus before. Always tough to pin creativity / growth to particular conditions, though.
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