My remark was meant as a comment on how many classrooms kill interest. Certainly true of my English classes, which tried valiantly to kill my love of reading. In general, I'm in favour of less "education", but am in favour of enabling enthusiastic children to do projects.
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Replying to @michael_nielsen @micsolana
This is partly what makes education debates tricky: my English teachers (in several cases with me, really they were writers largely unwillingly employed, out of necessity only) opened so many doors to understanding that I would likely never otherwise have found..
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Conversely my experiences at lobbying my school to bolster its CS side / offer anything in this regard suggest to me that there is a lot of potential to unlock and that ideas / attempts should be encouraged
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Replying to @starsandrobots @micsolana
I wonder how much is personality + quality of teachers. I hated school, & that's reflected in my adult attitude. My paragraph below is what I viscerally feel - but it can't quite literally be correct (you're a counterexample, for one thing).pic.twitter.com/AjHcyNI0tB
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Replying to @michael_nielsen @micsolana
Yeah I would describe my high school experience as having had full responsibility for my own learning, with a big supplemental boost from the staff, and the things I was required to take and mightn’t have were largely eye-opening (language, writing, art history)
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On the other hand I tried everything I could to get better technical education on offer while I was there. Truly hard to do in Hawaii, esp then. Things are much better at the school now. But my high school probably was weird. A high fraction of the teachers had PhDs..
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The answer for me at the time was to give up on trying to get them to hire a teacher and instead help start the FIRST robotics team (this meant like, students personally fundraising sponsorship from the local Starbucks until we had a budget, etc)
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A FIRST-style model for programming would be awesome. I think FIRST is honestly likely vastly under-credited as guardians and purveyors of US STEM education today. But that’s also colored by my own twisted perspective :)
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It’s also probably pretty explanatory of who I am to say that high school was one of the best things about my teen years, and a vastly better learning experience than I found at MIT.
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On the other hand I think most “nerds” I’ve met either totally loved or totally hated school and the bimodal distribution of high school emotions and grades in my peers (either As or Cs-Fs) is probably the most damning measure of the educational institution itself.
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