yes, that’s part of it! But meanings are not in minds either.They are “in” patterns of interaction that cross individuals’ boundaries
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Replying to @Meaningness
these patterns only exist as the projections of individual minds, but yes they relate the individual to (projected) systems
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Replying to @Plinz
Not sure what you mean by “projection”. They are objectively observable: people stop when the light turns red.
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Replying to @Meaningness
they stop when their neocortices create a dream of red lights infused by relevance generated by their motivational systems
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Replying to @Plinz @Meaningness
"infused by relevance" - that's meaning! And the "relevance" comes from self, from the red and from other people
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Replying to @ssica3003 @Plinz
Yes! It’s that interaction of self, other people, biology, and the non-human world that generates meaning.
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self and "red", "other people" and "world" are generated by your brain's software, which is implemented as biology
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Replying to @Plinz @ssica3003
Brains are certainly importantly involved! But so is the apple, or traffic light, which are not brains or software.
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Replying to @Meaningness @Plinz
yep, the light is not software. The process of making meaning about the light is not exclusively inside your brain.
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I think the physical universe cannot contain lights as we perceive them. The underlying causal structure is drastically different
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is that relevant to meaning existing?
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Replying to @ssica3003
Hm, meaning does not exist in the universe itself. For some definition of existence, it exists as a result of brain activity.
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