main reason why I loathe the "male gaze"-framing is that it invariably implies that 1) sexual attraction is incompatible with respect and 2) being attracted to female bodies does women harm + is intrinsically gross and a sign of lacking self-control desiring sex is not violence.
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I can recommend a movie that involves sexual attraction and not the male gaze - Portrait of a Lady on Fire. Male gaze is something more than what you've described, as others have pointed out.
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That movie is all about the eroticism of equality, of horizontality - there's no dominance/submission, or predator/prey, or capture/be captured dynamics occuring. They are both subjects. The cinematography focuses on their faces, and not their bodies. It's still very hot.
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That sounds great, and I'm excited to watch it. I'm also bothered by this, though. It sounds a lot like this is about a female gaze instead of a male gaze. See thread starting here:https://twitter.com/slab52/status/1316115754790596608 …
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I want a sexual/sexualizing focus on women's bodies to be culturally accepted:https://twitter.com/Elodes12/status/1316120934290542592 …
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Isn't it? I mean, isn't that what the culture has been for a long time? And now it's swinging in the other direction, sure, but it's important to understand why the direction change is occurring at all
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It really depends on which culture you're talking about. I suspect that in the cultures @Elodes12 finds himself in, the answer is no.
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I think we could look at media over the last few decades to get the temperature on this - it seems only in the last... decade? Maybe less? That the culture has swung toward punishing men's sexual attraction toward women? (I'd be curious how
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Definitely agree with this. I'm talking about culture in the last decade. My points aren't at all valid if you go two decades back. I do believe they're valid now though
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Time to rebuild
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