MetaJess

None the less, women’s direct purpose is sex (with death an unfortunate side effect) whereas men’s direct purpose is death (soldier / war)

you're not *supposed* to die in war

But if you try to avoid dying in any other way than killing the other side, that’s desertion.

lmao git gud more seriously, it's horrible, but women were also not supposed to avoid the risks of marriage & pregnancy, & were often physically forced to undertake them

I think you’re interpreting “death object” differently than me and @ssica3003. I take it as “object that causes/provides death”, just as a sex object “provides sex”. “Git gud” (be better at killing) is exactly what I’m talking about.

your interpretation still seems to make men more death-subjects than death-objects, if men & women die at similar rates as a side-effect of their performance of their same-at-heart gender roles of "making more of us than of them"

Oh yeah I’m ok with ”death subject” if that’s what you prefer, I like the symmetry of the phrasing in the original tweet but am not wedded to it. Then we can ask of a given soldier in determining their subjecthood, are they a volunteer or a conscript

the big difference in the shift from woman:sexobject::man:deathobject to woman:sexobject::man:deathsubject makes, is that it makes men less pitiable. i don't think that's all to the good....but overemphasizing the historical danger of male roles compared to female roles, bad too