Pretty much yeah. I think they do both second and third order wrong in general. Third order is possible but with a lot of caveats. Too many variables. If you get third order right out of it is mostly luck.
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The right way to "sense make" is not to predict but simply to recognise the whole range of possible tail risks and hedge appropriately. Mainstream "sense makers" do not realise this and instead try to make prediction.
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Replying to @shrinetothevine @ssica3003
who are those mainstream sense makers?
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Replying to @nosilverv @ssica3003
Won't tag, but you can google. Dave snowden a good example. And anyone that claims to be in "futures thinking" consulting for governments
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Skim through this and prepare to roll your eyes. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/674209/futures-toolkit-edition-1.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj6tfHY54_oAhUZU30KHT2-AdEQFjAEegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0veNWpYEZreOWGGkg3X_kM …
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Replying to @shrinetothevine @ssica3003
lol this shit always reminds me of the pepsi thing and it's always instant dismiss
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Replying to @nosilverv @ssica3003
I just saw pepsi for the first time today and it blew my mind. But in case u were wondering these were the guys that coined "sense making" as a term
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Replying to @shrinetothevine @ssica3003
NO WAY wasn't it the game b people????
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There are several versions of this term
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Replying to @ssica3003 @nosilverv
Game B appropriating sense making as a term a lot more recent than systems thinking using it. I'll admit game B is not very familiar to me I'll need to read more before I can appropriately comment.
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