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    1. Jason Snyder‏ @cognazor 23 Feb 2020
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      Replying to @cognazor @ssica3003 @visakanv

      But yeah, I agree that people are angry at the wrong thing, just pointing out that there is another axis of legitimate disagreement with the Dawkins's of the world

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    2. ericlinuskaplan‏ @ericlinuskaplan 23 Feb 2020
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      What does he mean it “works”? Did slavery “work”?

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    3. Jason Snyder‏ @cognazor 23 Feb 2020
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      I think in Dawkins's mind, 'works' means he thinks humans can successfully and responsibly guide top-down (read: bio-engineered) human gene optimization, with success criteria determined by utilitarian principles

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    4. Greg Dember‏ @GregDember 23 Feb 2020
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      Replying to @cognazor @ericlinuskaplan and

      I'd not say Dawkins thinks we can *responsibly* guide it. That's why he said he does not morally support it. He's just being a modernist, looking at questions in isolation. The extreme negative reaction is PoMo, saying it's meaningless to separate moral and technical questions.

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    5. ericlinuskaplan‏ @ericlinuskaplan 23 Feb 2020
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      Why does he deplore it? Why does he deplore slavery? It makes me suspicious when people say “of course slavery works. Its just wrong.” I dont think slavery works because its wrong. Does that make me a postmodernist?

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    6. Jason Snyder‏ @cognazor 23 Feb 2020
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      Replying to @ericlinuskaplan @GregDember and

      Or just a 'low-decoupler' (i.e., you think abstract intellectual discussions should fully account for context):https://everythingstudies.com/2018/04/26/a-deep-dive-into-the-harris-klein-controversy/ …

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    7. ericlinuskaplan‏ @ericlinuskaplan 23 Feb 2020
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      When hume said reason is and ought to be the slave of the passions was he a low decoupler? Or a high decoupler because he was able to decouple the arguments for decoupling from context? Moral: decoupling is a dumb idea designed to rename moral blindness as something good.

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    8. Jason Snyder‏ @cognazor 23 Feb 2020
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      I don't think the author makes a normative claim about whether decoupling is good or not. Just pointing out the spectrum

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    9. Jason Snyder‏ @cognazor 23 Feb 2020
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      Replying to @cognazor @ericlinuskaplan and

      For the record, I think that high decoupling is morally problematic and epistemologically suspect

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    10. Jason Snyder‏ @cognazor 23 Feb 2020
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      Replying to @cognazor @ericlinuskaplan and

      It denies a systems/embedded view of life, a denial which is the source of many problems today, ecological collapse being the most salient example

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      MetaJess‏ @ssica3003 23 Feb 2020
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      Replying to @cognazor @ericlinuskaplan and

      I can see that point, and agree. However what tends to go with something being "immoral" is the ability to address, talk, or even think about the thing. You push it outside the Overton window, turning it invisible. Anyone who is immoral can see it tho, and use it against you.

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        2. Jason Snyder‏ @cognazor 23 Feb 2020
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          Yeah, I can see that lens as well. Both should be woven together

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        3. MetaJess‏ @ssica3003 23 Feb 2020
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          lol

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