Very interesting. But all those $s and all those years... but for what? What are the benefits of enlightment? Is it really worth it?
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Replying to @ssica3003
http://vinay.howtolivewiki.com/blog/other/my-thoughtmenu-on-enlightenment-3644 … There isn't one That's the point
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Replying to @leashless
Thank you for replying. Re-Reading the original doc link, I see there is little mention of enlightenment being good for something. But overall it reads as if it’s saying we could /should support more people to be enlightened.
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Replying to @ssica3003 @leashless
I’m with
@leashless. Arguably there is no benefit to the individual. And considerable costs & risks I’d assign a non-zero probability that there’s benefits to •society• from small-r realized people (enlightened) but also really hard to suss out1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Also this podcast interview is fascinating & insightful Interviewee had such a strong yearning to practice that he wanted to ask a prison warden to lock him up (interviewee would pay for food) in solitary confinement so he’d have a place to practicehttps://www.guruviking.com/guru-viking-interviews-ep6-lorin-roche-phd/ …
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So high cost but negligible benefit. But if it’s just minority weirdo people wasting their money to get consciousness kicks... why write and publish a 6 page pdf on how to do it (more)(better)(cheaper)? Maybe just for fun I guess.
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Replying to @ssica3003 @leashless
I think most of the people I know, directly I”R”L or at one digital remove, who are dedicated to the “quest”, aren’t in it for consciousness “kicks”. It seems more like some part of their own consciousness or their own unique deep nature •kicked them• into the quest
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Replying to @ssica3003 @leashless
For some...maybe? For many, it’s more like, some people decide “I’m going to be an elite athlete. I’m going to sail around the world. I’m going to run a marathon every year.” Humans have these intense drives which don’t map either onto reproduction, status-seeking, or hedonism
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Replying to @Timber_22 @leashless
So my original question all the way back there is why would
@leashless who is an impact kind of guy, write a long document about how expensive it is to get enlightened, when he says it’s no more or less good for a person than sailing or running marathons?2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
No one really says “those poor people who wanna sail round the world, it’s so expensive these days, poor people how we gonna fix that “
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Replying to @ssica3003 @leashless
And not to quibble, but there are sites and networks that can help hook people up without much money who want to sail with people who have boats Yes, does still skew privileged/“first world”, but it is kind of analogous to Gupta’s inquiry here
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