If you don’t have the emic experience of knowing a system fully, from the inside, then meta-systematicity is more likely to be a nice idea than an application in context.
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Replying to @_awbery_
So yes, I guess my take would be “make sure you understand how one system works so well that you’re confident you could answer pretty much any question about it, how it works, how you would apply it in different context, and what its failure modes are.”
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Replying to @_awbery_
Do you have any thoughts about the general pragmatics of meta-systematicity yourself?
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Replying to @_awbery_
The pointer on going very deep into a system is helpful. However, how deep should one go? Every interesting system/art is infinitely deep, and eventually touches threads of the entire macrocosm. I have experienced becoming meta-systematic to different layers of reality.
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Replying to @wayofquality @_awbery_
Yet, I found switching across arts helps you activate the mental fluidity in a different manner. e.g. I recently started Tango, and have done Qi Qong practice for about 2 years. I could feel they both started reinforcing each other right away.
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Replying to @wayofquality @_awbery_
The challenge is not to get to a few layers deep across 10 arts either - which I seem to do with meditation techniques. It feels like there is a difference between going into the depth (e.g. of spherical void) and the coverage area from different angles (spherical surface area)
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Replying to @wayofquality @_awbery_
Which system did you first decide to get meta systematic in; and how did you sense you had mastered it entirely
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Replying to @wayofquality @_awbery_
I find this question a strange one: my experience is that once one has gone meta to one system, one goes meta to them all. It’s a cognitive flip or lens that can’t be turned off - like suddenly seeing the picture in a mess of spots - one can’t “unsee” it once one has seen it.pic.twitter.com/4ejscpJS7T
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Replying to @ssica3003
I agree with regards view; important, irreversible insight. I think in context, particularly the first time around, meta-systematicity grows organically out of systematicity (can’t be otherwise,I guess). So there are interesting questions around what encourages the process.
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Replying to @_awbery_
Agree. And I do remember my first system - it was political. I was throughly versed in the feminist and sjw system, esp. the rich academic nuance that was prominent before the social media madness. I had built my entire identity and ethics around it. When I realised...
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... realised that the “other” side was equally nuanced, and I had a new lens to use too (modern rationality), I had a terrible realisation of the relativity of each system and the rug was completely pulled away beneath my feet. Had malaise for a long time after.
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Replying to @ssica3003
That’s a really interesting account of visceral, embodied move into meta systematicity, I would like to point to/reference it in future.
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