I am often tempted to engage container folk thought leading about #serverless. But slowly realizing I am not their target audience. It is other container people. They are trying to ensure their tribe they will still exist in the new world.
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BTW I'm giving a brand new talk on all of this on March 22nd in NYChttps://www.meetup.com/Serverless-NYC/events/247709799/ …
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You're gonna be eating your words when AWS releases a serverless container offering. The benefits of containers are huge – can run anywhere (on my machine!) and fully packaged OS-level dependencies. Reproducibility is one of Lambda's downfalls right now
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The ultimate step beyond FaaS will be invocations as a service. Sure, you can provide a function API, just like the Go Lambda runtime does, but really you're uploading an RPC server. Allow ppl to package that in a container and boot it fast, and voila.
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This is, btw, what OpenWhisk already lets you do... it's just... IBM Bluemix hosted... and kinda with an ugly API right now. Add an AWS rocket boost to it, and with the right API :chefskiss:
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They might. AWS isn't allergic to money. I don't think it will invalidate anything I said. By building Lambda infra above container level AWS is giving themselves more land to build a bigger moat around their castle. I don't see them giving that up at the runtime.
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Containers can be helpful. Reproducibility or dev UX is a great example. But as a packaging or runtime format? Seems like something AWS doesn't want to do. They would be much happier to invert the dev model entirely and have us all use Cloud9, dev directly on Lambda
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So what, that's just an API they expose. Great dev experience. OpenWhisk let's you do the same thing, editing functions in browser. But remember for anything beyond that, with Lambda, you upload a particularly structured zipfile

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Lambda does not fit all uses cases that containers do (e.g. cost efficiency with very high TPS, very low or consistently low latency required)
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