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Writer, mother, wife. Seeking all that's true, all that's good, all that's beautiful in this life & the next. Humble Roots: https://goo.gl/ynIdO2 

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    1. hannah anderson‏ @sometimesalight Oct 16

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      Had a little fun last week w/ this Q & subsequent answers. HOWEVER, the discussion prompted an actual Q for me that sits at the intersection of covenant theology & gender. Would love feedback (1)https://twitter.com/sometimesalight/status/1050772746836332545 …

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      hannah anderson @sometimesalight
      Replying to @between2worlds
      So I've got a Q about the reformed baptist/Calvinistic aesthetic: I've got a lot of male friends who exist in that craft beer/beard/cigar/reformed theology space, but I find that very few reformed women have beards or smoke cigars. What gives?
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      hannah anderson‏ @sometimesalight Oct 16

      How does covenant theology account for circumcision as an inherently gendered sign of the covenant transitioning into baptism which is not gendered?

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        2. hannah anderson‏ @sometimesalight Oct 16

          As a baptist, I've never had to think about this before but it presents interesting Qs & even potential dilemmas.

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        3. hannah anderson‏ @sometimesalight Oct 16

          (By way of disclaimer, I'm using language of "gendered" in populist meaning. "Sexed" is probably more accurate.)

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        4. hannah anderson‏ @sometimesalight Oct 16

          Word on the street is that @zugzwanged has likely thought & written many words on this & it's likely good. Alastair's worked w/ both baptism Qs & gender Qs so this probably sits directly in his wheelhouse.

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        2. settlers of hierodula‏ @hierodula Oct 16
          Replying to @sometimesalight

          Christ fulfills circumcision. The flesh is 'cut off' in his death, he is the son of the woman whose shed blood cleanses his mother/bride. Another sheds his blood for us. Everybody washed for uncleanness in OT. FWIW, ancient church baptized nekked & segregated

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        3. hannah anderson‏ @sometimesalight Oct 16
          Replying to @hierodula

          So you're saying baptism parallels purification rites, not circumsion, right? I've always found this more satisfying explanation which is likely why I'm a baptist

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        4. settlers of hierodula‏ @hierodula Oct 16
          Replying to @sometimesalight

          that there IS a sign of entry to the covenant is a parallel to circumcision. that the FORM of the sign is *definitive* washing is not to denigrate the circ<>baptism root idea of a covenant entry sign.

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        5. settlers of hierodula‏ @hierodula Oct 16
          Replying to @hierodula @sometimesalight

          Duane Spencer's book on baptism is big on the washing background of baptism and hes paedo. I think I'm not suprised that the NC goes in a different direction with the form of the covenant sign, being New and all.

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        6. hannah anderson‏ @sometimesalight Oct 16
          Replying to @hierodula

          Okay, I think I see the distinction btwn sign & form. So male body carries the sign but all are initiated through water?

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        7. settlers of hierodula‏ @hierodula Oct 16
          Replying to @sometimesalight

          OT or NT? There is a typological initiation of the nation by water at the red sea/cloud (which rained! psalm 77:17) but I'd say prior to that the family is included in the circumicsion sign in the OT generally

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        8. hannah anderson‏ @sometimesalight Oct 16
          Replying to @hierodula

          Could you say that the form is consistent but the sign is fulfilled in Christ?

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        9. settlers of hierodula‏ @hierodula Oct 16
          Replying to @sometimesalight

          sure? which form: washing with water?

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        2. Phil Wade‏ @Brandywinebooks Oct 16
          Replying to @sometimesalight

          The gist of this is the gospel and how it parallels Israel's role in the world. God appointed a small nation to be his envoys to the world, but his grace was always for everyone. So he set up Israel to be a light to the world and draw the nations to him.

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        3. hannah anderson‏ @sometimesalight Oct 16
          Replying to @Brandywinebooks

          Right, I understand covenant theology's link btwn circumcision & baptism as it relates to Israel & the Church. I'm wondering about how gender factors in. Circumsicion is inherently male, limited. But under new covenant, baptism is not limited by sex.

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        4. hannah anderson‏ @sometimesalight Oct 16
          Replying to @sometimesalight @Brandywinebooks

          So the Church shines as beacon in the world the same way Israel did. But entrance into the covenant promises of Israel was through circumcision & household lines. Covenant theology preserves household concept, but baptism is extended to both male & female infants.

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        5. Phil Wade‏ @Brandywinebooks Oct 16
          Replying to @sometimesalight

          Right, and that elevates, even liberates, women in a cultural sense, but that's probably as much as I can say. @aimeebyrdhwt may be able to knock this question out of the park.

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        6. hannah anderson‏ @sometimesalight Oct 16
          Replying to @Brandywinebooks @aimeebyrdhwt

          I'm just a bit unsettled that I'm only now thinking about this. That's what being baptist will do for you. Lol.

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        7. Phil Wade‏ @Brandywinebooks Oct 16
          Replying to @sometimesalight @aimeebyrdhwt

          The door is open for you to come to the light. Presbyterians (PCA) have better coffee, I mean, theology. *cough* Sorry, I've got something in my throat.

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        2. Thabiti Anyabwile‏ @ThabitiAnyabwil Oct 16
          Replying to @sometimesalight

          I’ve long wondered that too! It seems to me the gendered notion of circumcision might/ought to be viewed as an indication of its limited nature. The fuller inclusion of the gospel/New Covenant requires a fuller signification of our immersive union with Christ.

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        3. hannah anderson‏ @sometimesalight Oct 16
          Replying to @ThabitiAnyabwil

          That makes sense w/ Joel's words that the Spirit will be poured out on all flesh & sons & daughters will prophesy. That presents some interesting dilemmas for conservatives though.

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        4. hannah anderson‏ @sometimesalight Oct 16
          Replying to @sometimesalight @ThabitiAnyabwil

          At the very least, it requires greater attention to the work of the Spirit thru *all* believers & suggests that covenant theologians should be the most open to charisma & gifts. Ironically enough.

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