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    1. Solar Designer‏ @solardiz Aug 19

      @jmgosney What password length(s) does @hashcat benchmark mode use for sha256crypt, md5crypt, phpass? In particular, in benchmark results at https://gist.github.com/epixoip/973da7352f4cc005746c627527e4d073 … and https://gist.github.com/epixoip/ace60d09981be09544fdd35005051505 …. I'm also interested in these for atom's 1080s at 90W (energy-efficient mode). Thanks!

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    2. hashcat‏ @hashcat Aug 19
      Replying to @solardiz @jmgosney

      The length in hashcat benchmarks is always 7 except if there's a hash (like WPA) which forces it to be longer. Note that md5crypt and sha*crypt are not using any password length-based optimizations. The speed on length 15 is the same as with length 7.

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    3. Solar Designer‏ @solardiz Aug 20
      Replying to @hashcat @jmgosney

      Thanks. @apingis reminded me that for sha256crypt there are more SHA-256 blocks to process starting at low salt and password lengths, e.g. at salt length 8 there's slowdown between password lengths 7 and 8, and then between 11 and 12. I've just confirmed this on JtR and hashcat.

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    4. Solar Designer‏ @solardiz Aug 20
      Replying to @solardiz @hashcat and

      The next question is what salt length is used in hashcat's sha256crypt benchmark. ST_HASH_07400 in the source code suggests it's 16.

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    5. Solar Designer‏ @solardiz Aug 20
      Replying to @solardiz @hashcat and

      Benchmark with "-b -m 7400" on Titan X Maxwell gives 287 kH/s, but cracking of ST_HASH_07400 with "-O -w 3 -a 3 -m 7400 '?a?a?a?a?a?a?a'" gives only 181 kH/s. Any explanation? (This discrepancy means we can't use Jeremi's published hashcat benchmarks for comparison against ours.)

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    6. Solar Designer‏ @solardiz Aug 20
      Replying to @solardiz @hashcat and

      "--markov-disable" made very little difference (maybe 181 to 182 kH/s). No such discrepancy between benchmark and cracking is seen for sha512crypt (hashcat mode 1800), so our previous comparison looks valid. I'm glad I tested hashcat's sha256crypt myself before posting a new one.

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    7. hashcat‏ @hashcat Aug 20
      Replying to @solardiz @jmgosney @Apingis

      The benchmark mode is fine. It's just using a salt of length 8 while the example hash uses the length 16. If you truncate the salt to 8 in non-benchmark mode you should see the same performance.

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      Solar Designer‏ @solardiz Aug 20
      Replying to @hashcat @jmgosney @Apingis

      Confirmed. Getting 288 kH/s cracking a salt length 8 sha256crypt hash with mask length 7. Will use these lengths for our FPGA benchmarks.

      9:27 AM - 20 Aug 2018
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        1. hashcat‏ @hashcat Aug 20
          Replying to @solardiz @jmgosney @Apingis

          This same hash, running a GTX1080 and capped at 90W, is doing 355kH/s

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